[ SECRET POST #2383 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2383 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.









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[Hannibal; moving gif]


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02. [SPOILERS for Hawaii Five-O]



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03. [SPOILERS for Ashes to Ashes/Life on Mars]



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04. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]



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05. [WARNING for rape]

[Russell Brand]


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06. [WARNING for sexual assault]



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07. [WARNING for chan/shota]



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08. [WARNING for emotional abuse]



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09. [WARNING for rape/dub-con]



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10. [WARNING for incest]

[Fosters]


















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Really? Of all the characters, Ned Stark reminds me most of Stannis. He lived in a world of black-and-white uncompromising morality. That might be admirable in a man, but it would be fatal in a ruler.

[lex_antonia]

Really? In my opinion, it's the other way around. Fatal in a man, admirable in a ruler.

I think Stannis would be a good king if it weren't for the whole One True God business, and Ned ruled the North very well.

[(Anonymous)]

The likes of Ned and Stannis would be fine as rulers so long as no crises came along that challenged their morals - but considering the times they're living in, that's very unlikely. When you step back and think about it...the long summer' of peace in Westeros was really nothing more than a pause for breath in the turbulent civil war that resulted from the toppling of the Targaryen dynasty. Read a bit of real-world history and you'll see the same pattern repeat itself. Such times do not lend themselves to rigidly moral rulers.

Ned ruled the North very well.

I agree. But the South is not the North, and being a good Lord of Winterfell does not translate to becoming a successful King of Westeros. The Starks were respected in the North, and were raised into Northern traditions in which honour played a large part. But similar relationships did not exist between Stark and the Southern houses, and Ned Stark in his naivety seemed to believe that honour alone would win him the allies he needed (or even that he did not need allies, though such naivety is hard to believe). When it came down to it, Ned Stark was either unable or unwilling to do what was necessary to survive the politics of Kings Landing, and as such he could never have been a good King.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see the Lannisters doing any better, tbqh.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, not Cersei. She turned out to be much better at scheming for power than actually exercising it. If anything she's almost the complete thematic opposite to Ned Stark - trusting nobody, no moral limits, and constantly afraid (mostly that someone as bad as herself will come along some day).

But I'd argue that Tywin or Tyrion would have made good kings. Though both of them can be personally unpleasant, both are natural politicians, are intelligent, are rich (really - this is far more important than I think a lot of people are willing to acknowledge) and lack the scary ego/zealotry/insanity that most of the other current candidates boast.

[lovelycudy]

IAWTC. Wasn't Tywin a pretty good Hand? A terrible person, but a good ruler.

[(Anonymous)]

ehh, by the time he engineered the Red Wedding, I think he'd forgotten that a ruler who wants to keep his state should avoid being despised and hated. The Red Wedding has tarred the Lannisters with the brush of the contemptible Freys.

[lovelycudy]

Wasn't he the Mad King's Hand, too? It's been a while. And IDK, the RW was a very smart move. Horrible, but smart.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Yeah. He even had a certain "logic" to it, though in true Tywin fashion, it still remained self-/family-serving. He essentially put an end to the war ravaging the kingdoms in one fell swoop. Since we don't know much about what he might have done politically afterward to manage the Iron Islands and Stannis situations, it was a very clever move. Especially since it's the Freys who receive the brunt of the hatred for it, not the Lannisters.

[lovelycudy]

Yeah. The Red Wedding destroyed the North rebellion with one single stroke without Tywin having to soil his own hands. We will never know what would have happened afterwards, though.

Tywin's downfall was his lack of understanding when it came to his own family (and boy, he was a crap father) not his political inability.

[(Anonymous)]

Only a smart move in the short term. In the long term, probably, not so much.

[solequeene]

We'll never know, will we?

[lex_antonia]

Depends on what you define as 'good.' Winning a war, staying in power? Sure. But he went all scorched earth on the country, and even Jaime realises at the end of his last chapter that winter is about to start, no one knows how long it's going to last, and the entire last harvest has been ruined.

I'd also argue that it's pretty damn stupid to ignore what's going on at the Wall.

I'm sure all the wannabe ruler who ignored actual threats because they were busy scheming will have their comeuppance at the end.

[lovelycudy]

I meant when he was Aerys' Hand, weren't there twenty years of prosperity under his rule?

[(Anonymous)]

It's pretty easy to have twenty years of prosperity when you have basically twenty years of continuous summer.

[solequeene]

Sure, but prosperity is more than not having a winter.

[(Anonymous)]

This is something that's bothered me about Tyrion from the beginning--his insistence that the Wall is a useless boondoggle and that there's nothing on the other side of it but imaginary grumkins and snarks. The problem with folk who are used to thinking of themselves as the cleverest person in the room is that they have trouble realizing that they may be wrong.

[lunabee34]

I agree with you completely.

I think Ned would've made a better king than Stannis, but he couldn't play the political game necessary to keep the Iron Throne. Ned was an excellent lord; as a ruler on a smaller scale, he's probably the most successful example in the whole series. I think it helps that Winterfell and the surrounding areas seem filled with people who are cut from the same cloth Ned is. In King's Landing where he has to deal with Littlefinger and the Lannisters and Varys, Ned is lost. And every time he finds out that one more little piece of his soul is required to make the realm run smoothly, he despairs.