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[ SECRET POST #2383 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2383 ⌋

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01. http://i.imgur.com/xFMajFq.gif
[Hannibal; moving gif]

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02. [SPOILERS for Hawaii Five-O]

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03. [SPOILERS for Ashes to Ashes/Life on Mars]

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04. [SPOILERS for A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]

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05. [WARNING for rape]

[Russell Brand]

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06. [WARNING for sexual assault]

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07. [WARNING for chan/shota]

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08. [WARNING for emotional abuse]

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09. [WARNING for rape/dub-con]

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10. [WARNING for incest]

[Fosters]

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What it says on the title - what villain did you feel the most sympathy/empathy for?

idk...magneto?

Humbert Humbert

Creep.

Tai-Lung from Kung Fu Panda. It's one of the reasons i cant get into the first movie-- the buildup around him was so flimsy I just felt bad for him. The second movie handled it better.

Gollum.

If he counts as a villain? Also, Scar, Iago, Cersei Lannister, and Voldemort-when-he-was-Tom-Riddle, but mostly Gollum.

It really says something that my first thought was, "No, that's wrong. Gollum's not a villain." I mean, he is. He's an antagonist, he does horrible things, and he doesn't really ever redeem himself. I just feel so sorry for him I can't think of him as a villain.

I totally see Gollum. He is so fucking sad and pitiful. But why Scar?

Are you referring to Iago the Disney character or Iago the Shakespeare character? Because if it's the latter, I'm curious as to why you found him sympathetic.

Magneto definitely. And Loki in Thor.

It's a villain from Batman Beyond that just...Had the mind of a child. Like he built this carnival of death/theme park and obviously just got a kick out of killing folks but when he dies his leg got hurt, and he's just rolling on the ground like a little kid crying about how it hurts [using the same terms a 5-year old might use] and that just always punches me in the gut. [It's also the first time I ever heard the phrase 'Nothing is as innocent or cruel as child', and possible is why that phrase effected me as much as it has @_@].

... are you sure you aren't thinking of the Mad Pierrot from cowboy bebop?

Loki because I really do see him as a woobie (who turned evil, did unspeakable things, yeah, I know, I still feel sorry for him). I also tend to blend myth with comic/MCU, which adds to the woobieness.

Amanda from the Saw series.

And this movie The Final. These bullied kids band together and torture their bullies. In the end, I felt sorry for everyone. Horror movies are supposed to be scary or fun. This one makes me cry.

The Mummy, but only from the first movie.

...what?

This is going to sound ridiculous but Godzilla from the 2000 US remake. He doesn't start out killing humans deliberately and he only becomes hostile when the army dudes open fire while he's eating, I always get sad at the end of the film as you hear his heartbeat slowly fade away. :(

But then a large part of me does always kind of want the monsters to win in monster movies, especially when they are essentially animals who's existence just happens to conflict with humans.

Seconding someone else's mention of The Mummy. Also Loki, Ulquiorra, Gerard Butler's character in the movie Law Abiding Citizen, Rameses in The Prince of Egypt.

Does pity count? Because I've never pitied a character like I did Theodora in Oz the Great and Powerful.

Oh, yeah, poor Theodora. :(

This is a good question, it's also kind making me search my brain because I know there are villains I feel really bad for, I tend to naturally really love villains but I don't always feel for them... so I'm trying hard to remember.

Most of the Sailormoon villains are pretty tragic, with the exception of the final-final boss (which is usually just some sort of spirit/incarnation of chaos) the Sailormoon villains were all innocents who were corrupted. Some of them get healed by Sailor Moon, but a lot of them just get killed. Nephrite's death episode in the anime remains one of the saddest.

tom riddle/voldemort

don't get me wrong, he's a sociopath and a sadist and there's no excuse for all his crimes, but life just shat on him non-stop and when he finally caught a break by going to hogwarts he winds up in the worst possible house (where the values were about magical blood, playing life like it was politics and outsmarting everyone to come on top) to help him become functional and the one person who saw him for what he was (dumbledore) gave him up as a monster

To add to your points, there's also an interview with J.K. Rowling stating that Voldemort would have turned out differently if Merope had lived too.

"Ravleen: How much does the fact that voldemort was conceived under a love potion have to do with his nonability to understand love is it more symbolic
J.K. Rowling: It was a symbolic way of showing that he came from a loveless union - but of course, everything would have changed if Merope had survived and raised him herself and loved him."

Source: http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0730-bloomsbury-chat.html

It's why I find Harry Potter AU fanfics exploring that idea so interesting, where Merope decides to live and raise Tom Riddle Jr.

Anna Milton from Supernatural.

(Spoilers!) She started off as a protagonist, but the show creators, having written her out of the story in favor of Castiel, put her on ice, then brought her back the next season as a deranged murderer so they'd have an excuse to kill her off. Even then, she did the wrong thing for the best right reason imaginable, to try to stop Lucifer from taking over the planet! Meanwhile, the good guys (including Cas, with whom she shared a long history and whose life she'd saved the prior season) never even discussed the possibility of trying to talk her down or find some alternative to just killing her. Nor has she been mentioned since, let alone mourned. Anna got screwed hard, man.

Mister Freeze, Harley and Two-Face from the Batman series, specifically BTAS. They're so goddamn tragic, and honestly I don't think I'd be any better if I was in Freeze's situation. Heck, a large chunk of Batman's rogues gallery can fall into this, with a few exceptions (ie, Joker).

Gluttony from Fullmetal Alchemist. Oh sure, he's a horrific abomination of science, but he's never maliciously evil and seems to childlike to realise what he's doing. Plus he was the only one to ever mourn Lust, which made me feel really bad for him. :(

The comic book Saga is also very good at making me feel sympathic for Prince Robot IV and The Will. They're both bad people trying to do terrible things, but the Prince is a PTSD-ridden war vet who just wants to have a family and The Will goes very far out of his way to rescue a child sex slave because he feels like it's the right thing to do.

Joshua Graham from Fallout New Vegas. He was a monster who did terrible things and helped create the horrifying beast that is the Legion, but after surviving his execution he actually takes responsibility for his actions and genuinely tries to be a decent person again. Even when he's about to slip into villainy again and your character has the chance to talk him out of it, I felt bad that his internal nature was always so willing to twist the things he believed in to justify more savagery. Talking him into mercy is one of my favorite gaming experiences.

And also the Think Tank from Old World Blues, a DLC of the above game. They're completely amoral and invented fucking cazadores, but they're also hysterical and have completely lost their minds due to time, mental erosion and too many mentats. I also have great sympathy for Doctor Mobius, but if I said why that'd be a spoiler. ;)

There's a few more I'd like tp put here, but I'm saving those for secrets. :3

Howard Alan Treesong.

He's only technically a villain in this game, and he most certainly is NOT one in B2/W2, but N from Pokemon Black and White.

I mean, yeah, he's the 'leader' of the villainous team and opposes the protag, but he's also an abused kid who's doing what he thinks is actually best, with the best possible intentions, and I seriously want to give him a hug and tell him everything will be okay and the protag will kick Ghetsis' abusive sadistic arse for him.

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