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Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing ELSE has stopped my pain, and my doctor keeps suggesting it. :/
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-07-13 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It can create an endorphin response that provides temporary pain relief.

But the whole thing about poking people in certain places to accomplish certain things is 110% bullshit.
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] lynx 2013-07-13 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Look, take me seriously here: I was the biggest non-believer you could have found, before. I dismissed it as bullshitty pseudoscience, what with the chi and stuff. I was a dirty postitivist westerner on that.

But acupuncture /gave me back the mobility of my left foot/.

On October, 2010, I had an accident that damaged that one nerve that goes from the big toe to the hip, all along the leg. I almost had to get amputated, spent a month in bed and two in a wheelchair. After that I was able to stand and used crutches, but I couldn't move anything from the ankle down. Everyone, and I mean absolutely every doctor I could find, told me I would be forever in chronic pain (in a level high enough to keep me on Trams, which are INSANELY HARD TO GET PRESCRIBED on this country), and that I would never have any sensation on the foot again, for the nerve was irreparably damaged.

My mom sent me to an acupuncturist because she has holistic friends who believe in that kind of therapy.

Slowly, with three sessions a week and on the space of four months, I was able to regain sensation in the foot, then mobility in the ankle. After a year, I was able to wiggle all my toes including the thumb. I have to add: It doesn't hurt anymore. I don't have the same amount of sensation or mobility than in my right foot, but it's healed now.

IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC, NOR IT'S MAGICAL. It's slow as hell and you need to cram as many sessions as you can on the time you have. But fuck me, it works and I will forever swear by it, and eat my previous heathen words with ketchup sauce every time. I owe it to acupuncture, big time. Do it.
Edited 2013-07-13 23:37 (UTC)
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-13 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I was skeptical going in but it really helped with my migraines. It took my monthly migraine count down from 9-7 to 5-4. Either way, it won't hurt to try. (I mean, unless you freak out at tiny needles.)
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] pantasma 2013-07-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Never had it done (phobia), but it seems like it could go either way.

I understand what they do is increase blood flow to the application site, while carrying the increased amount of our very own, in-house painkillers. Whether this provides long term relief or not, I don't know.

My mom had it done for fibromyalgia for a while. After the first month, she started getting bruises at each site, which got progressively worse with each treatment. This may be because she has thin skin and delicate capillaries, or she needed more (ahem) needles at each site, or more aggressively applied -- I don't know. That's how it went for her. But it kind of reminded me of having to increase the dosage of painkillers as the body builds tolerance, with those bigger and bigger bruises. But it worked wonders, for her. She could use her arms again, and it wasn't drugs.

I might have to find out soon, though. I'm in the same boat. So not looking forward. ><;
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-13 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I might have to find out soon, though. I'm in the same boat. So not looking forward. ><;

?!?!!?
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] pantasma 2013-07-14 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Did I not have my arm all taped up when you were here?
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
And I would link a taped up arm to acupuncture because...? (I do not remember if you were tape or not.) I just remember I'm not allowed to talk about the sharp things in acupuncture with you because phobia.
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] pantasma 2013-07-14 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Because you're in my brain. STOP LYING ABOUT IT!

It's my tennis elbow and tendonitis from conducting. But my physio and a GP now think might be a problem with the membrane surrounding the joint at the elbow and wrist because the ulna is moving too much (which friggin hurts every time they test for it!).

So maybe acupuncture for the pain, orthopaedic surgeon and x-rays for the solution.
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-14 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
NEVER!

Oooohhhh. I'm sorry.

Edited 2013-07-14 00:28 (UTC)
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WELL IT WORKS ON CATS

[personal profile] tyger66 2013-07-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
In my opinion, the greatest endorsement of acupuncture is that is really, truly has a measurable positive effect on animals.

And animals don't even know that the needles are supposed to help them! They're just all like "WOAH, omg terrifying pointy things!", but then they'll get home and it's like you're seeing a different animal.

Basically, yes. It can work.
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Re: WELL IT WORKS ON CATS

[personal profile] thene 2013-07-14 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, but no. Placebo effects can be easily created in animals. Read this article about the placebo effect in sniffer dogs.

Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
only if you go with someone who knows what they're doing
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Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-07-14 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Acupuncture has roots in real science: your body's nervous system is interconnected.

You won't see a cure for metastasized cancer from needles but for stuff like pain it can work miracles.

Re: Does acupuncture work if you don't believe in it?

[personal profile] ex_mrs260625 2013-07-14 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
My understanding is that scientific studies do show it works better than a placebo.

I believe, but don't remember as clearly, that stimulating other points (along the same nerves?) achieved the same better-than-placebo results. So it works, but not the same way as traditionally believed.