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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-14 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2385 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
By "today" do you mean the nu!52 or the 2000s in general?

I haven't touched a comic from the nu!52, but in the 2000s, she was pretty feminist...but tended to be pretty bland and subdued about it, and tended to have a more bland and subdued personality overall than she had in the 1970s-early 1990s. She became much more cookie-cutter and generic, rather than having bold and obvious character traits.

But in general, the personality of superhero comics characters - especially ones from titles that have a huge rotating train of writers like Action Comics/Superman - have started varying by writer so wildly since the late '90s that IMO their character development can no longer really be described as anything more than a collection of general tendencies.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
the early 00s were okay because the post 9/11 macho-crap took a while to permeate, but from 04/05 onwards it has just gotten shittier and shittier. The 2010s are shaping up to be even worse, cesspits of misogyny that would shame a Viking pillager. It is almost a race to see who can be most pathetically stupid.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-14 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
(I'm assuming you're the same anon.)

By "today" do you mean the nu!52 or the 2000s in general?

I guess both, really. I didn't actually think about the split until you mentioned it.

have started varying by writer so wildly since the late '90s

I thought that comic book characters were becoming more grounded in their characterization rather than varying more wildly. I guess I got that mixed up.

It is almost a race to see who can be most pathetically stupid.

And this has a direct effect on Lois? She's getting shittier in your opinion?

Thank you for your willingness to share your opinion with me.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-14 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the first anon who replied to you, who is different than the second anon. SO I can't speak for the second anon's comments.

But yeah, the characters are definitely not getting more grounded in their characterization -- they're getting far more variable. Mind you, this isn't a COMPLETELY bad thing, since it allows more room for experimentation and alternative interpretations and creativity, which is great for standalone stories, but it does diminish continuity considerably, which isn't great for crisis crossovers and the like because it makes the characters seem OOC when comparing actions they took in 1995 versus 2005, and then people argue over which actions were OOC and which were IC.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-14 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah! Sorry for getting the two of you confused.

That seems to really complicate things. Thank you for the clarification. I guess I'd be on the side for more consistency and leaving the alternate interpretation to stand-alones or something. Kind of best of both world but yeah, huh.

Thank you.