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fandomsecrets2013-07-19 07:10 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2390 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2390 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
01.
[Karl Urban]
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02.
[Legend of Zelda]
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03.
[Pride and Prejudice]
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04.
[Shingeki no Kyojin]
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05.
[Les dossiers du Bell]
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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
06. [SPOILERS for 'Injustice: Gods Among Us'; 'Man of Steel']
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07. [SPOILERS for Welcome to Night Vale]
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08. [SPOILERS for Young Justice]
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09. [SPOILERS for Merlin]
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10. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]
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11. [SPOILERS for Umineko no Naku Koro ni]
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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]
12. [WARNING for incest]
[Felica & Ryon Day, "Co-Optitude"]
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13. [WARNING for incest]
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14. [WARNING for suicide]
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15. [WARNING for abuse]
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Notes:
Sorry for late again, work's a bit busy this week.
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #341.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?
(A) the spouse of the individual; and
(B) an unmarried dependent child of the individual (other than a stillborn child), including an adopted child, stepchild or foster child (but only if the stepchild or foster child lived with the individual in a regular parent-child relationship), or recognized natural child--
(i) who is less than 22 years of age, or
(ii) who is 22 years of age or older and is incapable of self-support because of a mental or physical disability which existed before the child became 22 years of age.”
source: http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/family-member/
There's an ambiguity in this language, however, specifically the word "and" in that first definition. However, depending on how you read it, this says the legal definition of family member includes "spouse" and "child/ren."
On a social level things get much more muddled. Nobody really questions anymore that a single parent with one child is a family, as well as unmarried couples with children. The gold standard, of course, is a married couple with a child. Where people tend to get more ambivalent are same-sex relationships regardless of children and couples without children.
The lady you spoke to has every right to be indignant, but I don't see what's so bad about using "married couple" in place of "family" if no children are involved. More often than not, "getting married" and "starting a family" are referred to as two separate acts.
Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?
(Anonymous) 2013-07-20 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)Does that mean that because I'm older than twenty-two but still live at home because I'm a full-time student, don't have time to work enough to support myself in one of the most expensive cities in the world, and live in a culture where many people live with their parents for a much longer time than the US, I'm not considered to be my mother's family member?
What about my brother? He's moved out and lives with his girlfriend. Unmarried. Does that mean he's not Mum's family member either? What about when he does marry, does that mean he can no longer be considered family?
That definition is FUCKED.
Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?
And there's your answer. If you're not in the US, that legal definition I supplied does not apply to you :D