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But why did he start in the first place? And at 13!?

because drugs make people feel good. esp when they're in pain or whatever.

and are we really going to fucking condemn someone for a choice they made when they were 13 years old

Yes. It's not like he could have said, "No one told me drugs were bad. There have been no examples of people crashing and burning on drugs anywhere! I had no idea." He made the personal choice to start drugs. I wish more people would take more personal responsibility for their actions. He was thirteen and not a baby. Forget, "He should have known better." He did know better and still took drugs.

Just so we're clear here, you're literally arguing that a human being deserved to die because of a bad decision he made when he was 13 years old. That's literally what you are arguing.

Here's hoping you're a troll.

At no point did they say he deserved to die.

They said that he was being stupid for doing it and that they don't believe that he didn't know what he was doing was dangerous.

That's no the same as thinking that someone deserved to die.

They're saying that he was being stupid for doing it, and that they don't believe that he didn't know what he was doing was dangerous, and also that this means it's wrong to feel compassion for his death. Because that's what happens when you're addicted, and it was his choice to take drugs and get addicted when he was 13. This whole discussion is taking place in the context of a lot of people who really strenuously object to the idea of feeling any kind of sympathy or pity or compassion for addicts, especially for ones who die.

Show ONE comment where someone said that he literally deserved to die and that it was literally wrong to feel sorry for him. just ONE.

While I admit there's a certain amount of hyperbole going on in this thread, I think this comment comes pretty close:

Taking drugs is an action that is KNOWN to lead to addiction. Anyone who makes that CHOICE to take drugs does not get to act like a helpless victim when the KNOWN consequences arrive, as they WILL DO.

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(Anonymous) - 2013-07-22 01:39 (UTC) - Expand

Fine, it was a stupid choice. People make stupid choices all the time. But neglected, possibly abused, and under-educated 13-year-olds don't always MAKE rational, good choices. Your average addict doesn't stop using until they hit rock bottom - which it sounds like Cory never did. Never served jail time, which is what made my cousin stop using (for now, at least, we'll see if it lasts).

Actually he might not have had an idea. And even if he did, he was THIRTEEN. Do you really expect him to have processed that information the same way an adult would?

because peer pressure? maybe he was in a bad crowd. i don't know about how his childhood was like, but there are all kinds of factors for this kind of thing.

Maybe he had a hard life, maybe some bad influences, who knows? But the one thing I know is that you don't necessarily have the best judgment when you're 13. And I would sure hate to be judged by my 13-year-old self, and I never tried drugs.

I believe it was as a distraction from a bad home life.

what kind of environment was he in at 13 that getting into drugs was even on the table???

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Oh fuck off.

... that anonymous reply felt uncalled for.

I'm sorry people are being so rude to you.

are you serious with this question?

Probably not a great one. Which would, you know, also help explain the bad decision making that caused him to start.

a horrible environment that drove him to do drugs.

There are a LOT of really bad situations that can drive 13yo children to choices like that. This comment honestly sounds pretty naive. I have no idea what this kid was going through, but off the top of my head I can think of a variety of potential situations which would put a huge psychological and emotional strain on a 13yo and further impair their (already very underdeveloped) judgment: physical/emotional/sexual abuse, neglect, horrible death in the family, severe bullying, pre-existing mental illness, seeing a parent's life fall apart for similar or totally dissimilar reasons, exposure to horrible cruelty (to him or someone else)...the list goes on.

I wish none of these things existed, especially for children. =( But it doesn't do any good to pretend they aren't real.

Who knows, and why does it matter?

Because, unfortunately, we tend to judge drug addicts depending on how they started. Especially if they're famous.

"He started at 13 because his father scored him the drugs" <-- poor baby.
"He started at 13 because his family life was horrible" <-- poor innocent man.
"He started at 13 because there was a lot of peer pressure at his school" <-- well, he should've told someone.
"He started at 13 because he wanted to experiment, it looked like it was fun, someone told him it was fun" <-- OMG! Burn the idiot.

It's stupid, because at the end, its still a life lost, and it's still something tragic. But a lot of people don't see it that way.

It's stupid to blame him for any of them, it just gets more and more obviously stupid as you go up the chain.

Yeah, this is what I meant when I asked why it mattered, but I failed to express myself well.