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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2392 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2392 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It is.
There are other copping mechanisms that do not involve drinking or taking drugs and if they decided to start drinking/taking drugs instead of doing something else, their illness or bad situation is not at fault.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You have never heard of self-medicating? Sometimes you get so low that drugs seem like the only thing that help. Addiction is part of mental illness.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Since when self-medicating is a perfectly safe thing to do and not a bad decision?
Honestly, it's surprising how many people just want to make people not responsible for their own actions.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-07-21 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I considered posting this anon, but fuck it.

No one's saying that self-medicating is a perfectly safe thing to do. But sometimes when your brain is still not fully developed and you're facing something huge, you don't see any way of coping besides self-medicating. I was eleven and I knew eating disorders were a bad thing, so instead of starving myself (I didn't know bulimia was a thing) I would eat and then throw up at the earliest opportunity. I stopped for a while because my parents realized my teeth were yellowing a lot and took me to a dentist who figured out what was going on right away, and I started therapy, but I started throwing up after meals again in high school. This went on for another two years until my intestines literally started rotting inside my body and I almost died. It's been years, but I still have health problems that require surgery. I might need an organ transplant later on because my heart is so strained. Does that mean I should be allowed to die since throwing up that first time was my choice?

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
na Behind you 100%. Fuck those conservative types who think every decision is a level playing field. ((((((hugs))))))

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
No, but it'd be hard to say you weren't responsible for your death if it happened.

Just because you did it the first time at eleven doesn't magically mean you'd never be responsible again.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
That really depends.

Generally, under the law, most 11-year old would NOT be considered responsible for their actions. Because the law, rightfully so, considers an 11-year-old decision-making ability to be impaired compared to an adult's.

But say you still consider elephantinegrace responsible in the broad sense of the world, would you still say that she (I think she?) is unworthy of sympathy because of it? Because that's basically what op's saying.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-21 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Self-medicating isn't a perfectly safe thing to do. No-one is saying it is. But the people who are making the choice to self-medicate are often people whose judgement is already impaired because of mental illness, trauma, etc. In the case in question, the person who made the choice to start was 13. We don't assume that 13-year-olds are fully qualified to make big decisions like that, because their minds haven't developed to the point where they can foresee all the consequences of their actions. This is why we have statutory rape laws, this is why we don't let teenagers drink, drive or vote, this is why have young offender laws which seal juvenile records so that a person won't be haunted their entire lives by a stupid decision made as a child.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2013-07-22 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's not about acting like no one is responsible for their actions. It's about acknowledging that sometimes people make bad decisions about drugs and alcohol in part because their circumstances are terrible and they'll take any relief they can get, even if it's only temporary and even if they know it'll make things worse in the long run. For people who can't get the help they need for one reason or another, self-medicating can seem like the only option left.

You can have compassion for someone and be understanding towards their problems without necessarily approving of their choices.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's true - but we can still STRONGLY disagree with people who say that addiction is NEVER a choice.

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Doing things that lead to addiction: Sometimes a choice.

Addiction: By its very fucking nature and definition, not a goddamn choice. If it were a choice, you wouldn't be addicted, you'd just have a bad habit (compare: Drinking too much and being an actual alcoholic.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck you.

My Dad self-medicates his depression by drinking too much - and that's his fucking CHOICE.

The same way it's his choice when he lets his depression cause him to lash out and hurt me and the rest of my family. That's a coping mechanism too. Is that not his fault either?

He doesn't get a free pass because of his depression. Maybe his depression makes controlling himself hard, but he's still responsible for his actions.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-22 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
While I agree with the general premise of "using drugs as a coping mechanism is a bad idea", I take issue with your wording. It literally says, "addiction is a choice."

No, it's not. There's a difference between the initial starting bad choice and waking up one day saying "I want to get addicted to a drug today!".