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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2392 ]


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Re: A bad idea

[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-07-21 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's good, but only a fraction of it (I mean for starters, why are you even criminalising or fining users in the first place?).

The simple reality is you can't stop drug production, importation, and use. We've poured collectively trillions of pounds into the endeavour, and barely made a dent.

The question then becomes fairly simple. Who do you want to profit off that? People who are going to cut their product to shit, and pour all their gains into organised crime, which inevitably tries to diversify their portfolio into fun things like human trafficking, forced prostitution, fraud, etc - or more legitimate entities who can be held to regulations, and who don't spend all their time killing off the competition.

I mean for context, the use in just California is believed to amount to up to 20% of the drug profits made by the Mexican Cartels. Read up what those Cartels do for kicks when you have some free time.
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Re: A bad idea

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-07-21 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well if they didn't fine users (and as I understand it they only focus on sellers, I have seen police officers walk past people taking drugs without caring) they would not have anything to do except catch people driving too fast and complaining about lack of manpower then they would get bored... that was a joke about Norwegian crime rates, and also the fact that they want to make begging illegal, but apparently having designated times when begging is allowed would be too much? anyway, moving on to my serious answer.

I do see where you are coming from, and where my problem with illegal drugs lie is not exactly with the drugs themselves, I just don't want illegal drugs around me, but that is a personality thing and so on and it is too complicated to get into now.

And I would be okay with making illegal drugs legal, as long as it is monitored and the heavy drugs are prescription to people whom are already drug addicts and so on. For all I care, pot could be sold alongside my cigarettes as long as you have to be 18 to buy it.

Because as you mention Drug Cartels are not nice people, heck the Norwegian Hell's Angeles aren't really fluffy kittens and they basically deal in drugs and control the tattoo parlours (sp?) in my old hometown among other things and they are responsible for a lot of our crime over here.

As someone whom have grown up among drug use (and criminals for that matter), I do also know that my uncles would not stop being criminals if drugs became legal, even if some of the crime they commit is to get drugs, so making drugs legal is not a quick fix on those types of crimes.

Re: A bad idea

(Anonymous) 2013-07-22 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
they would not have anything to do except catch people driving too fast and complaining about lack of manpower then they would get bored

I LOL'd. And then the people they caught driving too fast would say, "Don't you have any REAL criminals to catch?" :-D