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What are your feels on this matter?

i give no fucks

I'm all for it. Using old words in new ways is one of the best forms of linguistic evolution there is.

Also,

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linked because I suck at formatting

Edited 2013-07-23 00:07 (UTC)

Sort of related, I've heard that some people get confused when the term 'phone' is used as a verb, as in "I phoned her last night" or something. That's in pretty common usage around here.

Generally speaking if the meaning is clear enough from the context I don't have a problem with it myself. If it's used enough it can come into the common vernacular like the above example.

Shakespeare did it, so... yeah.

I don't care. We've been doing it forever. We will do it into the future. It's english. It's not supposed to make sense.

(And I just realized as I wrote it that I could replace english the name of any language and still have the following sentence. Ah, language.)

Not necessarily any language. My last ex was commenting on how changing a word's category is nearly impossible in Spanish - it simply wouldn't make sense. I would think it would be the same in any romantic language.

We went back to it a few times, trying to figure out how it might work and decided you would have to redefine, reconjugate or create whole new conjugations, and wait several generations for it to stick.

I wasn't expecting the word to be completely unchanged in all languages. (Heck, even in english you need to change it a bit.) So what you just admitted is that's it's possible to do, you just can't use the exact word. You just need to alter it a bit.

Edited 2013-07-23 02:00 (UTC)

It's more casual in English. The difference we found is a prolonged, complicated transformation vs. using the noun as the verb. It's the difference between saying, "I'm writing" and, "I am writing a paper now (for a short/long period of time)," with all the tenses, articles, and conjugations.

In middle school where we had lockers, we had the term "butterflying a locker" where if the lock to your locker was open, someone can turn it and lock it so the dial faced away making it extremely annoying to unlock again.

I enjoy it, fun with language

As in creating verbs out of nouns? For example, I started "papering" instead of "writing a paper" a few years ago.

Or do you mean something more like "respect" when used alternately as a verb or a noun?

As long as the meaning is clear I don't really care, and language evolves, etc.

That said, there's a song that uses "comatose" as a noun and it DRIVES ME COMPLETELY FUCKING INSANE.

there's a song that uses "comatose" as a noun

How does that even work?

trufax

Most of the time I don't really think much about it, especially since a lot of those noun-verbs are already pretty firmly ingrained in our vernacular. :/ I do think it's pretty futile and pointless to try to stop people from using those words, though. Like others have said, if it's comprehensible and natural (if not eloquently used), then yay. ~~If not, then maybe get a trend going and soon enough most people will get what it means. #yolo~~

It is a thing that happens, and as such there's not much point in my being bothered by it. I do get annoyed when neologisms (whether of this type or otherwise) crowd out perfectly good words or phrases that have more specific meanings (like people using YOLO when they really mean carpe diem), but that's a little different.

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Using nouns as verbs (and vice versa)

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Verbing words awesomes the language

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