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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-24 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2395 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2395 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Most Popular Girls in School]


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03.
[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[Gerard Way and Frank Iero]


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[Mastumoto Jun]


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[Macdonald Hall]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Generator Rex]


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[Neil Oliver]


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[Star Trek]


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[Star Trek: TNG]


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[The Vampire Diaries]













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diet_poison: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-25 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I take some issue with this. Being a full-time parent is, in fact, a full-time job, and it's a very important job, and I don't like it when people imply that it's "lower" on the success scale than having a career. And for some people, it really IS what they want.

The one part I can agree with is that in this economy, it's not always possible to have one parent in a household working when the other does not. But that's for economic reasons.

For some people, caring for children and running a household is where they have a gift and passion, so it doesn't mean they're losing their "potential". It kind of sounds like you're trying to pressure people into taking a different path because you don't like their choice. And being around their kids all day doesn't bother some as much as it might you - just like people have different preferences for other aspects of the work environment.
dancing_clown: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] dancing_clown 2013-07-25 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this.

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
This. Being a parent isn't my dream, but it is for plenty of other people. If that's what they want to do, why's it a waste of potential? And if childcare is such an inferior choice, are kids supposed to raise themselves?

*shakes head at the lack of logic in OP's argument*

Re: be honest

(Anonymous) 2013-07-25 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
"Being a full-time parent is, in fact, a full-time job, and it's a very important job"

but it's... not. not when your kids are in school all day, anyway. and it can't honestly be that "important" if most parents don't do it and manage to raise their kids all right.

I say do what you want and have fun with it, but seriously roll my eyes at this "being a stay-at-home-parent is a full-time and important job" stuff. seems to discount the parenting ability of working parents, as though they are missing something, which they are not.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: be honest

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-25 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Not trying to discount working parents by any means.

When your kids are very young, however, you have the option of either putting them in daycare, or having a parent stay home and care for them. Either option is valid, and both require that someone pays a lot of attention to the child (and one requires that you put money into it as well). This becomes even more true when you have multiple kids. Small children DO require constant attention for their own safety - less as they grow older, of course.

not when your kids are in school all day, anyway.

School isn't every day of the year, nor does it tend to cover the entire workday when it is...
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Re: be honest

[personal profile] thene 2013-07-25 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of people get older relatives to care for kids, and some workplaces or local communities offer free daycare - it's not an either/or thing between stay at home or shell out for daycare. For older kids, there's after-school (which is often very cheap even if it's not free) and often cheap summer day-camp programs run by schools or communities. It's very variable how friendly a society is towards working mothers, but there's a good deal of leeway even in the USA.
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Re: be honest

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-07-25 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree being a parent is a full-time job. Or rather, as some anons have said upthread, plenty of parents have full time jobs and still raise kids perfectly well. I am the child of working parents, and I feel this sort of mentality implies the only good parents is a stay at home parent. It's nonsense. The way kids are coddled on modern western society is staggering. My mom use to go to school on her own when she was SIX.

I'm willing to accept some people find satisfaction in raising children, but now you're making it into something more noble than it is.
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Re: be honest

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-07-25 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel this sort of mentality implies the only good parents is a stay at home parent.

I'm not sure where you're getting this from? I'm talking about people who WANT to be full-time parents.

My mom use to go to school on her own when she was SIX.

Not sure how this is relevant. At any rate I walked myself to the bus stop from a very young age and walked myself to school when I started going to middle school since it's very close to my house. My mom hasn't worked full-time at all in my memory.

I'm willing to accept some people find satisfaction in raising children, but now you're making it into something more noble than it is.

It isn't any more or less noble than working full-time. You have been trying to put it down and make it *less*, and I'm trying to say it's not less.