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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-25 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2396 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2396 ⌋

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elaminator: (Star Trek: Into Darkness - Kirk)

[personal profile] elaminator 2013-07-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Of course the original version is going to be more poignant; the characters have so much more history! But the thing that the new scene is supposed to drive home (at least imo) is that these two people are (in the grand scheme of things) only starting to get to know each other. Despite that they've already changed each others lives and been through some major shit together. They're connected now. Their relationship might not yet have the depth of TOS Kirk and Spock, but they do like and respect each other; they are growing fond of one another. Plus they know that in another universe they had this 'epic destiny' and 'bromance' and in that moment they both know they'll never get to fully explore it.

On Spock's end he's already lost his home and most of his race (including his mother), a mentor like figure in Pike, more innocent blood has been shed that he could do nothing to stop, and now he's losing one of the few people he likes enough to call friend. He doesn't yet have the same handle on his emotions that TOS Spock did and he's still reeling from all the loss he's experienced; losing Kirk is the last straw. Even if they don't have the history or the exact chemistry of the original Kirk and Spock, I don't see how that's cheap.

I mean, yes, of course it's a callback to WOK, but personally I loved it. If the movie had been exactly as is except for Kirk dying, I would've been terribly disappointed; why not see an alternate version of that scene? Things change (as they should) but that there are similarities and parallels between the universes makes sense to me. And spotting the differences between the TOS verse and the reboot verse is actually quite fun.

Obviously not everyone is going to like it, but if you enjoyed it that's fine too.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-26 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
i saw it the same way! their relationship has a lot of potential, imo.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree about everything

I just think, though, that it was terribly OOC for spock (come on guys you called him OOC in the first movie for having a girlfriend and now no ones has a problem with tears and screams and acting homicidal?) and a big fanservice thing. Lindelof dropped the ball with that.
elaminator: (Star Trek: TOS - Kirk/Spock)

[personal profile] elaminator 2013-07-28 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I think for some people him having a girlfriend seems more unusual than the rest of it. In TOS when he had a 'love interest' he was always (or at least almost always, my memory isn't that good) under the influence of some strange alien drug, or it was part of some master plan, or his control had been stripped from him, or something. In canon I've always seen Spock and being uninterested in sex (pon farr doesn't count) and romance so Spock/Uhura was a shock for me.

The tears? Yea, I can see why you'd say they were OOC because they're supposed to be. It's not something that happens to him; he was pushed beyond his limit and couldn't control his emotions. As for the homicidal bit, in the TOS episode 'The Devil in the Dark' Spock urges Kirk to not harm a creature (who has killed people) but once Kirk is approached by said creature encourages him to kill it. (Quite emphatically, actually.) So I don't think Spock losing his cool and wanting to murder someone or something is beyond the scope of possibility.