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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-28 03:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #2399 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2399 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, good for you! I love to hear about this type of shit and it makes me smile, the enthusiasm and love you have for your own writing. Rock on, OP!

(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, what? If I thought my writing was utter shit, I wouldn't post it. I love my stories. Is it suddenly taboo to say that anymore?

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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-07-28 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you, OP :) Loving what you do it great.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The question is whether your readers love your fics.

(I've gotten a few really positive responses to my stories, so I'm at least not a terrible writer, but the story I was most proud of turned out to be almost completely incomprehensible. One reader compared it to 2001: A Space Odyssey, and not in a good way.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you! Writers should love what they write and I don't see the point in sharing it otherwise. I love everything I've ever posted and it's finding that other people like that keeps me writing.
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[personal profile] straycatblues 2013-07-28 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Being confident is great,OP!

[personal profile] gamma_orionis 2013-07-28 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
*High-fives* That's awesome, OP! :)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You go, OP! I understand why people feel insecure about their writing, I'm sure everyone has moments where they feel like that. But I HATE this attitude in fandom where everyone has to say that they hate their writing and are so embarrassed by it. Most of the time it just feels like fishing for compliments because inevitably someone will say "oh no, your writing is great." But god forbid you call your own writing great, then you're an arrogant bitch.

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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2013-07-28 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
There's nothing wrong with that. I have my moments where I'm like "you know what? This is awesome and I love it and I don't give a crap about what other people (or my self-doubt) says!" It's good to feel great about something you've done.

And then other times my self-doubt wins. Oh well. :p
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[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2013-07-28 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Go OP! confidence is awesome. I don't think I'm an OMG amazing author, but I really love some of the stuff I've written, and I love sharing it.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
the danger of this line of thinking is believing that you have no improving left to do and having your art stagnate

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[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-07-28 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the logotype of the internet T-shirt shop "Made With Awesome". It's red text over a white background that has its right lower corner peel up like a sticker and forms an arrow pointing at the text. That white background is in turn over a red background with the texture of fabric.]

You know what? I don't just think I'm a good fanfic writer. I think I'm an awesome fanfic writer. I love my fics. I love my writing. I will totally bask in the amazingness of some of my lines.

Secret because: ahahaha, yeah, just try telling any group of writers that you don't think everything you write is utter shit.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-28 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Good for you, OP! :) I think there's way of phrasing it that don't sound arrogant, like 'I'm so proud of my work' or whatever, but why should you have to phrase it a certain way? You should be able to go, 'yeah, I think my fic IS great' without being criticised for it.

Personally, I know I'm a pretty average writer. Average may be overstating it- I can write good dialogue but nothing else. But wrote fic because I enjoyed the fuck out of it. I didn't publish 99% of the stuff I wrote but I wrote for myself so it doesn't really matter. Reviews are nice, but I don't see the point if you don't either love your fic or love writing it. I've pretty much stopped writing now but it was so much fun.

But obviously a lot of it is fishing for compliments, which is annoying. Fanfic writers can be super insecure, though. But I find it kind of insulting when I love a fic and an author says it sucks, like I have bad taste or something. Best to keep it private if you're feeling insecure about it tbh.

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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2013-07-28 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That's cool. *high five*
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[personal profile] saiika_von_maou 2013-07-28 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoo, you go, OP! Rock your writing!
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-07-28 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Then love your work. Shit, I love my work. As long as you're not saying you're perfect and no one should ever critique your work then, by all means, be happy about it.

I've always felt there's a difference between humility and saying that your work is crap. One, most of the time the fake humility is really a turn off, annoying, and hypocritical. Two, saying your stuff is crap is usually an incredible over exaggeration and therefore not a realistic estimation of your skills.

I generally feel like humility is more about knowing your limits realistically and being modest in the sense that you're not arrogant. You're not over the top. You're not a prick, essentially. (But hey, this is just me.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-07-29 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
We're kind of the same, OP, except I don't think my shit is awesome. It's kind o flike... I am mediocre and I'm content with my writing. I've felt I've hit my ceiling and I have no intentions to become a pro writer. I'm just happy writing mediocre, unpolished fics and any critique, while helpful, is wasted on me. I wish there was a way to say this to people without sounding like I'm fishing for reviews or compliments because I'm really not.

I think the problem is the assumption that every fic writer aims to go pro. At least, that's what I got from the fandoms I've been in.

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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-07-29 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand why people can't have self esteem and say aloud that their work is good. Personally I tend to hate my work, but I always respected my friends in college who could say "this piece I wrote is awesome." Go you, OP. Be louder about it!

(Anonymous) 2013-07-29 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Bask away! :)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-29 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
That's cool, OP. Self-deprecation/insecurity has become far too popular in fandom. It's something easy to hide behind when you think your work might not be any good and provides an easy boost for everyone to fall over themselves to reassure you that it is good.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-29 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with this. There are times when I go looking for really awesome, epic fanfics to read, and then wind up wandering into something I wrote a while ago because I can't find the awesome, epic story that I was in the mood for.

This works out great for me, because I wind up writing what I would like to read. I've also had a number of reviewers tell me that they didn't expect that they would like the story when they decided to give it a chance, and were pleasantly surprised at how the story hooked and held their interest all the way through.

(Anonymous) 2013-07-29 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
One reason some people feel uncomfortable proclaiming their awesomeness in public is because they don't want to look like victims of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.
Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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I feel you, OP

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-07-29 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Just because I have a lot of room for improvement doesn't mean my writing isn't good right now. I like my writing, as do a lot of other people. :)

But I can also understand why you'd keep that to yourself. Fandom has long been a haven for the chronically insecure, which is great! But unfortunately, when left unchecked, that leads to a culture that deems anything other than total insecurity and constant self-deprecation as arrogance.

(I usually see this with appearance, though. Everyone expects every woman to be full of nothing but shame and loathing for her body. Even saying "I think I look fine" will get you weird looks and accusations of pride, despite the fact everyone around you is constantly telling you you're beautiful to counteract the media message of exactly the opposite. And me? While I consider myself to have a lot of room for improvement, I think I'm hot right now as it is. But I've always learned the hard way to be careful where and when to say that out loud, or type it when it comes to online/fandom places. Because apparently listening to people around me and learning to balance and ignore the media standard of beauty makes me arrogant. >.<)

(Anonymous) 2013-07-29 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
there's a high chance your writing is bad. ever hear of the dunning-kruger effect? look it up.

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