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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-03 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2405 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2405 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree so much. If you don't care, that's fine, it's actually very easy to ignore these things. I didn't hear a Justin Bieber song until last month; I didn't find out about the royal baby's name until I googled it. I mean I heard lots about Cory Monteith on facebook but that lasted all of a day (and who would really be such a douche as to complain about people mourning?).

I honestly don't understand how people get bombarded with these things unless they venture into spaces where it's a big deal.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not always easy, tbh. I've heard so fucking much about the royal baby it's insane, along with hearing about Cory for more than 'a day'.

As for how? Friends, family, being around people who care who don't always drop the topic if you ask. [Actually, in the case of mine, it usually means they talk about even more.]
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2013-08-03 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Weeeeelll, in terms of your last statement it was really difficult with the royal birth. In the UK at least it was on every channel and in every newspaper for about a week. Even if you actively tried to avoid it, it was in your face and if you said you were trying to avoid it you can guarantee someone at some point in the day would ask you about it.

My employer even got requests from one or two members of the public to put on the company website that we should "congratulate" the royal couple. I had a staff consultation meeting a couple of days after the birth that the chief exec attended and she asked for a show of hands if she should put such an announcement on the website. The response was overwhelmingly in the negative and a few people spoke up to say "it's already all over the news, you can't miss it, so I don't see the point as it happened two days ago anyway" Of course, I'm sure Wills and Kate were devastated...
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(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
So if you're indifferent just be like "*shrug* I don't really care about this news" and people will stop bugging you about it. How is that difficult? Sure it can be annoying to see it on every news channel but then, that's the same with lots of other things like sports events or celebrity scandals. You can always flip the channel. There's really never a need to start bragging about how much you don't care about something as if it makes you superior.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"unless they venture into spaces where it's a big deal."

Or if they venture anywhere near someone to whom it is a big deal. And you can't always know if that's likely to happen or not. If people mourn in public, they should be prepared for the public to respond to that and it doesn't have to be with sympathy. Of course it would be nice for the unsympathetic people to ignore it but sometimes that can be really hard. I'd love to move on from hearing about Cory Monteith's death but even now it just keeps coming back up. It's like some people don't want to let go of the feelings they get from publicly mourning someone they didn't even know. That's why we have two secrets in one post, both of which were submitted at least 6 days after his death.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
> Of course it would be nice for the unsympathetic people to ignore it but sometimes that can be really hard.

I think the point of this secret was that these people can just suck it up. If it's so hard for them to let others mourn someone they like, they've got issues.

I haven't seen anything about Monteith's death on tumblr for a while now, and I happen to follow LOTS of Glee fans. It was all I could see on my dash the day he died, and for a couple of days after it was still pretty prevalent, but now it's not there much. How is that so horrifically annoying that anyone would have to be an asshole about it?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Posts weren't just on tumblr, people who don't even know any Glee fans saw news and posts about his death for days, and even now it's still getting brought up. As others have pointed out, backlash is inevitable.

And that's not even factoring in that some people simply do not feel sympathy for drug abusers who overdose, which we've had threads here about a couple of times the last couple weeks.

You say people who don't care should just suck it up, but the same could be said of those who have mourned for him. If you're posting outside of Glee fandom places, it's stupid to expect others to care. The more posts people who don't care are inundated with, the more frustrated they will get and the more likely they will be to tell mourners to just shut the fuck up already.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, ha ha.

I'm an American, and my local newspaper had the Royal Baby, with a color picture of the announcement, taking up most of its front page the morning after the birth. On a day (in a week, in a month) filled with pretty important actual news, local and national and international. I gather this was pretty typical, too. The Gandolfini death was covered as an important hard-news item everywhere. I think Monteith was too (though to be far, whatever happened with Kardassian or whatever her name is wasn't treated like it was of earthshattering import anywhere I saw).

If it were just the supermarket tabloids, sure. But this other stuff is totally in our faces, everywhere we go. Venturing into spaces where it's a big deal means opening our front doors, or looking at any news, politics, or analysis website.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's in your face for one day at most, and then newspapers go onto other things and push the royal baby onto other pages. But even if it was on the front page for hell, a few days, that's still nowhere near "annoying" enough to warrant bragging about how much you don't care. If you don't care, just flip the damn page and look at the other news. It's really not that hard.