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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-03 03:28 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, TBF, with the whole royal baby craze- a British friend of mine just told me there was such a massive backlash because many people are just sick of the royalty and how much they cost them and how the constant yammering about the royal baby is just distracting from the real issues in the UK.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Generally, I agree. I don't care enough about celeb lives to comment to begin with, but I just got SO SICK of hearing about the royal baby the day he was born (and I'm not even close to Britain) that I just had to scream out my annoyance on Twitter that day.

tbf I'm in Canada and not sure why we still keep our ties to the British monarchy anymore.

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[personal profile] helenadax 2013-08-03 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
IA. If they really didn't care, they wouldn't take the time to go online and post about how much they don't care. It's not really indifference if you can't stop talking about it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a bit of two minds about this, yes I agree it's extremely disrespectful to talk about how you don't care when someone just died.

But as far as people having babies and things, while I wouldn't ever post "I don't care" I do think having 5 million articles about celebrity pregnancy and then even more after the baby is born is not only ridiculous but is also delving way too much into the private lives of other people.

Like why is it even that interesting? Why do people need to know that much detail? Like a general announcement of the pregnancy and then maybe one picture is enough. I don't get how people can discuss these things for days on end.

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[personal profile] visp 2013-08-03 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, going out of your way to be like "Hey everyone! You know that one thing that happened? I don't care about it!" I have to agree that's a bit silly. But going "Please shut up about it; I am so sick of hearing and seeing it everywhere," that's a bit different. That's reasonable.

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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-08-03 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think in a lot of cases, people just enjoy trolling. :/

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I have nothing against the parents or the baby and am abstractly happy for them. I am happy Merrie Englande can avoid a bloody civil war trying to decide who will be the next king Sorry, mixed up my centuries for a minute there.

Similarly -- a celebrity died. It's sad. Their family and friends will be sad. People who feel invested in that celebrity will feel a loss, which is also sad.

I do not understand why so many people totally unconnected to any of the principals except by media consumption are so deeply personally invested, and depending on specifics sometimes find it borderline-creepy.

It does actually affect my life when the media is suddenly ALL ROYAL BABY, ALL THE TIME.

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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-08-03 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
When people are spazzing about the birth of the child of people who don't know they exist, I can't help rolling my eyes. It's the same with freaking about who celebrities are dating, or what kind of car they drive, or what house they live in. It doesn't freaking matter! It's just normal people doing people stuff and everyone freaking out about it is kinda ridiculous.

Am I happy they're happy together and just had a baby? Yes, I am. In the same way that I'm happy for the couple at the grocery store pushing the stroller with their new baby. In an 'aw, that's cute. Now where the hell is the pasta sauce?' kind of way. But being so obsessed with it that it's all I talk about for days on end? It's creepy. Very creepy.

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-08-03 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Tbh, usually I'm one of those "I don't care" blokes. But the "don't care" posts come with my opinions on people in question; I just use the events in their lives as a cause to write about them (even if I feel nothing about what happened, I may still be interested in a particular person as a phenomenon). When a writer I knew dies, I may write something like "well, everyone seems to be distraught over the death of N, but I find that I care little, since from their books and what I know of their personality I formed a such-and-such opinion, and for such-and-such reason they were not my cup of tea".

I do this not to spite the ones who are genuinely upset, but to analyse the information I have on N and my sentiments regarding this information. To be clear, I wouldn't do this if I had any friends who would be seriously hurt by my (normally very unemotionally written) posts.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh come on, you have to admit that filming a fucking DOOR for hours on end essentially saying "yep, still nothing happening" while there's actual real problems going on in the UK was ridiculous. The way people were going on it was like the feel good factor of two strangers successfully reproducing as expect (who certainly don't give a shit about you) was going to cure all your problems. I don't agree with going out of your way to be horrible to people who enjoy these things, but people are allowed to be fed up of overkill.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
As a little girl I had a big crush on Prince William. He's only slightly younger than I am so (even though I'm American) I wanted to marry him and be a princess. I think Kate is great, so I did watch their televised wedding (had the day off work for a root canal, and my dentist let me watch in the chair to distract me from the pain) and I am currently trying to get pregnant so I'm fascinated with anyone near me or celebrities that I enjoy having babies, so I did get excited about Prince George. I don't see why that's a super bad thing, but I don't talk about it with people because everyone's so mean about it.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't affect your life either whenever a celeb dies or gives birth. So why spazz about the baby (with all your excitement) or the dead celeb (with all your tears and "X will never be the same!")? In short, it goes both ways.

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[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-08-03 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge holding her newborn son in her arms; deceased actor Cory Monteith, from the TV show "Glee"; deceased actor James Gandolfini, from the TV show "The Sopranos"; and musician Kanye West and socialite Kim Kardashian attending the Costume Institute Gala, with Kim Kardashian visibly pregnant.

The Duchess is a young woman with light olive skin and long brown hair, wearing a light blue dress with white dots and smiling. Her baby is wrapped in a white blanket. Cory Monteith was a young man, had light skin, short brown hair and was wearing a black suit, black tie and white shirt. He was smiling a little. James Gandolfini was a middle-aged man with receding short dark hair, rosy pale skin and wearing a dark suit and tie with a white shirt. He was smiling. Kanye West is a man with bronze-tinted dark skin, wearing a black suit and white shirt with no tie and wrapping an arm around Kim Kardashian, who is wearing a brown and light pink floral dress with a leg slit. Her stomach is bulging with a baby. She has light tanned skin and long black hair pulled back in a ponytail. Kanye looks serious and Kim is smiling softly.]

It really bothers me when a celebrity dies or has a child, there's always someone who has to tell the world how much they don't care. We get it, you're so edgy and superior to the rest of us who DO care. It's not even the fact that they don't care. It's that they feel the need to rub it in everyone's face that gets to me.

It's okay to be indifferent about it, but why do you have to be so snotty about your opinions? Do you really have so little compassion for other people that you can't just be happy/sad for them? It doesn't affect your life either way so why go to so much trouble to be a dick about it?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
This has been generally stated above, but there is such a huge difference between being annoyed that something is being over-talked and over-covered, and going out of your way to talk about how you couldn't care less that someone is dead. It's just.. not classy. So a bunch of teenage girls are weeping over a celebrity passing- let them. I promise you, they WILL get over it. And you'll be a little bit less awful by stepping back and keeping your trap shut.

The royal baby shit is over the top, yeah. The royal family shit is always over the top. But when Cory Monteith died, there were folks immediately chomping at the bit to let everyone know how much they didn't care. You can't blame that on over-saturation.

I'm a really overly compassionate person, and death bothers me no matter who it happens to. I didn't know Cory personally, I stopped watching Glee a long time ago. But a man died. He ceased to exist, alone in a hotel room, losing a fight against substance abuse that he'd been battling since he was a teenager. You're kind of a shitty person if you're taking the time to tell everyone how much you don't give a damn. It is an exclusively mean-spirited action. If you're asked? If someone asks you how you feel? Go for it. But otherwise, shut up.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
While some of those 'I don't care' posts do get a little snooty, I can totally understand why someone would end up making one - particularly if it's about something people just cannot seem to stop talking about because well...There does come a point when you can't seem to get away from something and just snap about people because of it.

I'm not saying it's right, or okay, but I can see why it would happen with some people.

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-08-03 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Beyond what other people have said about it with, "Yes it can be a jerky thing to do at times but there are also times where a person can have legitimate reasons to be exasperated by it all," I have something else to say.

You wrote, "Do you really have so little compassion for other people that you can't just be happy/sad for them?"

...I thought you just said it was okay to be indifferent to these things. Not judging, right? But now if I don't care about a stranger's life and a big event that happened in it I lack compassion? You need to make up your fucking mind. Either people who don't care lack empathy and are horrible or they're just normal people who are different from you. Pick one. You can't say they're both because then the only one who looks like an asshole is you.

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[identity profile] nomorenoodles.livejournal.com 2013-08-03 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The royal baby stole my birthday and my middle name (the male version).

-grumble grumble-

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-03 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree so much. If you don't care, that's fine, it's actually very easy to ignore these things. I didn't hear a Justin Bieber song until last month; I didn't find out about the royal baby's name until I googled it. I mean I heard lots about Cory Monteith on facebook but that lasted all of a day (and who would really be such a douche as to complain about people mourning?).

I honestly don't understand how people get bombarded with these things unless they venture into spaces where it's a big deal.

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[personal profile] riddian 2013-08-03 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, often when I see somebody talking about how much they don't care I'm like, well... if you really don't care, why are you even going to the trouble of talking about how much you don't care? But then sometimes it's oversaturated enough that you get annoyed at how it's being shoved in your face all the time, and have to say so. I came pretty close to that point with the royal birth myself, it was aaaaalllll oveeeerrrrrr.
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-08-03 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree? I'm not really interested in the lives of celebrities at all; I tend not to react very strongly to hearing about things that happen to total strangers. But I'm not going to go around advertising that. Maybe it doesn't affect me that the guy on Glee died, but it obviously affected him and his family, and it obviously affected his fans, and it would make me a total douche to be like "I personally don't care about it, so all of you should stop talking about the things YOU care about so I don't have to hear it!"... and when people act like NOT caring about strangers makes them somehow superior it makes me want to punch them. Like, some people just have a lot of compassion towards everyone whether they know them or not; personally I think that's admirable.

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[personal profile] sabotabby 2013-08-03 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Since my taxes (albeit a tiny amount, but a tiny amount that would be better spent on needy people in my own country, or the arts, or better public transit, or AIDS prevention in Africa, or practically anything but inflating the wealth of people who have done nothing to earn it) will go to supporting this baby for the rest of my working life, I do feel that I have the right to opine on all the hoopla surrounding its birth.

With celebrity deaths, these particular people never really registered on my radar, but since I totally lost my shit when, say, Hunter S. Thompson or Elizabeth Sladen or Kurt Vonnegut died, I can totally sympathize with losing your shit over the death of someone you don't know but quite admire, and don't approve of anyone being obnoxious about not caring.

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No, it doesn't affect my life at all.

And that is why I don't care.

I'm not being edgy. I'm stating my opinion. I'm sorry if you're so insecure that you feel that is a personal attack on anyone.

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