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But he's not hot. And there wasn't any evidence. And she did drop the charges. And she's made false accusations before.

Look, I'd be willing to believe her despite the lack of evidence and history of false accusations if only she'd claimed he'd done things that wouldn't necessarily leave wounds. But what she did claim was mostly stuff that would have left her a bloody and bruised mess that would have required medical attention IF she survived. And yet...

She didn't report it immediately, but when she did, she was granted a restraining order by the courts. Those are not just handed out like candy. Someone on a legal end of things saw enough evidence to conclude he was a danger to her. She later dismissed the restraining order when they resumed their relationship, which also ended her legal suit against him.

And she never needed medical treatment why?

In LA County, there is no legal requirement for evidence of the person requesting a restraining order being in danger.

TROs are actually fairly easy to obtain. And sorry, no evidence and no repeat instances from Fassbender? Not going to to believe it. Especially since that kind of abuse would have required at least a hospital visit.

She may not have reported it immediately but she'd have to see a doctor and she was never treated for any of the injuries she says he inflicted on her. Burst ovarian cyst? No doctor visit. Blown out kneecap? No visit to the doctor. Broke her nose? Again, no doctor visit and no change in her appearance. Hmmm....

In all fairness to the broken nose, I'm fairly sure I broke my nose in a mosh pit once. It only bled for about five minutes, so I didn't think it was anything, but then next day I had two black eyes, and now I have a small bump in my nose. Said bump in the nose isn't noticable unless I point it out, and doesn't show up at all in photos.

But the rest? Yeeaahhhh, would have definitely needed medical attention of some sort.

DA: I have had one of my cysts burst, it's fucking agonising and often mimics appendicitis (in fact 3 of the 9 women on the Appi ward were found to have had that) so if that had happened she most definitely would have needed someone to check her over to be sure it wasn't that.

And only a laparoscopy can pick up on a burst cyst. Even with ultrasound, which is usually done before a laproscopy, all they can do is guess after seeing fluid and since fluid is also present with appendicitis she would be admitted to hospital.

Burst cysts don't always require treatment but they a) require medical expertise and equipment to diagnose and b) can be extremely agonising and c) mimic appendicitis.

That's without going into the others...

But restraining orders are handed out like candy. And she's the one who chose to ignore it. It's probably because being with him got her more exposure in the long run.

You have no fucking idea how the legal system works at all.

I am a rape survivor who was denied twice for a restraining order until he brought a gun until my place of work (which was for the state, which is the only reason they found against him, according to the judge) so how about you shut the fuck up

Horrible things happening to you do not in fact increase your knowledge of the legal system nor grant you psychic insight as to what Fassbender did or did not ever do.

I broke my leg so I know medicine

False equivalency. You said I had no knowledge of the legal system in regards to a restraining order. I told you you're wrong and so you shifted the goalpost. Good thing you got your girlfriend to come back you up, though.

I'm sorry that happened to you. It's a frightening failure of the system.

However, being caught in a shitty situation with the legal system doesn't give you an overview of its tendencies. In fact, it mostly gives you a strong confirmation bias.

"I have had an experience with a restraining order in the legal system, so I know all about restraining orders on the whole, also something bad happened to me so don't you dare talk."

That's your argument, which is actually a far better example of false equivalence than mine. And neither shows why I'm wrong nor addressed my other point, that you don't know Fassbender or what went on at all.

I assume your main argument now is "It was really hard for me to get a restraining order for a person who obviously deserved, therefore if this person got a restraining order there must have been something going on." and, as anon above me said, is relying on a lot of bias on your part. Far too much for the rest of us to take it as fact.

Multiple people talked about the medical reports that would presumably have happened but did not. This and other compelling points cause me to doubt things happened as his accuser said they did.

All you have to do is convince a judge you are afraid for your health and safety in the presence of another person. It's not that hard. It might as well be candy.

If you lie, you can go up for slander and lying in the court of law, but that doesn't stop people from doing it anyway.

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