[ SECRET POST #2406 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2406 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well...I dunno. Would you be okay with people taking a canonically lesbian character and making her straight, and then saying, "my interpretation of this character is that she acts lesbian because of Some Childhood Trauma, but she's actually straight and just needs the right man to come along and show her?"

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na

It's not the same at all and if you think it is then you are probably an ignorant asshole who thinks 'heterophobia' is real.

Heteros aren't underrepresented, heterosexuality isn't presented as error in our society and hets aren't subjected to "corrective rape" to turn them queer in order to make them 'normal again'.
Our world is full of queers who pretend to be hetero in order not to be the targets of hate and discrimination.

I hope you are just a tasteless troll.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

A) The scenario is framed as heterosexist. It's 'Chasing Amy' bullshit: no one's truly gay; they're all just people who haven't met the right heterosexual partner! It's wrong not because "heterophobia" is a thing, but because it makes homosexuality seem transient and fake.

B) Underrepresentation is a problem. So is the presentation of a particular group of people as "erroneous" or lesser than other groups. However, I don't think that is helped by turning everyone who is one thing into something else, particularly in fandom. Often, it takes real people and turns them into objects to be fetishized.

[(Anonymous)]

na

How do you feel about bisexuality?
Lots of characters who have an opposite sex partner are written off as hetero when in fact they could just as well be bi and hiding it. Not everyone is constantly blurting out their bisexuality, lots of us try to blend in and act either het or gay because in both 'camps' we're never fully tolerated.
How do you feel about this?

Furthermore I think you are under the impression that everyone who writes "het turned gay" is hetero and therefore fetishizing.
What about queers writing it? I used to write lots of such stories when I was younger because it helped me cope. I wrote 'het realizing they are bi' because I struggled with my own sexual identity and had to hide my romantical/sexual interest in women from everyone (because not everyone lives in a country where being queer is tolerated).

Things aren't black and white. There are many shades of grey (no pun intended). And I also found your previous comparison in bad taste. Just because a scenario is virtually heterosexist doesn't mean it can compare to the pain actual queer people go though in a heterosexist society.
Turning a character from het to gay has its problems but they're not the same as 'turning gay to het'.

[(Anonymous)]

How is that even the same thing? A person doing that is clearly just homophobic. They would have no problem at all finding representation in media but instead they choose to take away from what few queer representations exist instead. This is hateful and erasing in nature.

Trans* representation in traditional media is terrible, and few and far between. I certainly can't speak for everyone, but for the trans* writers I know who engage in writing trans* fic, the very creative exercise of writing these stories helps them tremendously to cope with their personal experience. At the same time, it doesn't hurt anyone. Cis people are certainly not affected one bit by a small number of fanfic writers portraying some characters as trans*, even if it's characters they love, because they can easily find cis representation elsewhere, in fandom and beyond.

[pantasma]

Are you asking this as a way to point out absurdity in the practice of gender and sexual orientation manipulation, or a way to turn the tables and see how someone would feel if someone "does it to you"?