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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-04 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2406 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2406 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm just going to say it then.

You are the exception. The vast majority of women do not have a full-face five o'clock shadow. When we see a full-face five o'clock shadow, there is more than enough basis to assume that person is male, not female.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Why do you get to decide what it is to be male or female? Why is someone with a five o'clock shadow most likely male to you? Why can't that someone be female? Why do you have to make assumptions based on the categories that you're most comfortable with?

You don't know how that other person identifies. Hell, for all you know, that other person might not identify with the gender binary at all. It's up to them to make that call, not you.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Why do you get to decide what it is to be male or female? Why is someone with a five o'clock shadow most likely male to you? Why can't that someone be female?

Is this how insane people sound when they talk?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure. I wasn't aware that people sounded insane when they spoke.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
WOW. This is what cissexism sounds like, ladies, gentlemen and others.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
no. that is what someone who understands biology sounds like. they aren't trying to be a dick. but a 5 o'clock shadow is a result of higher levels of testosterone, which is generally associated with males.

anybody who this does not apply to is the exception, not the rule.

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Look, there's a vast difference between making a completely rational assumption or guess based on available evidence, personal experience and statistical probability, until corrected, and trying to dictate that someone must conform to one's assumption.

The other anon is correct, your case is highly unusual, and anon's assumption will likely hold true for the vast majority of people anon meets in their lifetime. Generalizations that are firmly grounded in fact are not evil, as long as they are not held to be absolutes and used to try to force people to conform or to discriminate against them if they don't.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
... because someone with a five o'clock shadow is *most likely* a man because most people with five o'clock shadows are men.

That doesn't mean that they *can't* be a woman, but it's less likely.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Okay well why can't a small cast of characters also be exceptions is it really that hard to imagine that five exceptions would all be friends with each other on some TV show? Don't read fic you don't like but just because you can't imagine something doesn't make it impossible.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
SA

Sorry, I fucked up my HTML, I didn't intend to sound like I was talking to you in a weird snake voice.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god I love you forever and ever. I can't stop laughing.

Brilliant recovery.