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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-04 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2406 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
One of their people said that they want autism to be a "word for the history books" They're not about giving a cure for people who want it, they're all about "no more autistics period"

Please don't be so selfish as to to attack someone who is hurt and offended when a group claiming to speak for them can do nothing but spread fear about them and people like them.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I see from the person above you that they go about it in disturbing ways, and that's something to be upset about. But the part you said? It's an absolutely horrible thing to grow up with and no child should be forced to go through that. Methods of propaganda aside for the moment, I can't see anyone opposing the idea that a disability should be cured worldwide, future generations included. I don't get that.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
That's true.

But it can take on a different meaning based on the actions of the company,a and suggest different things. If the company went about it in a better way , and advocated finding ways to work around autistic children's challenges while still acknowledging that it can be hard to live with. If it allowed people who were mildly on the spectrum on their board to give a perspective of an autistic person. If it stressed 'hope for autistic children' rather than 'your child's diagnosis is dooming them'. Then if it did all that it would be fine and it wouldn't be offensive.

But the way they do it now it makes them sound like their goal is 'get rid of autistics for their own good'.

Imagine there are two groups claiming to be advocating poor people. One's actions seem to point to actually helping the poor people while the other constantly talk about how horrible poverty is, and have PSAs and TV spots where people talk about how they wish they could kill themselves because they are poor and the board members of the group are all rich people and they refuse to let anyone who has ACTUALLY BEEN POOR to be on their board, but just people who knew poor people, or had a neighbor that got their house foreclosed.

Again ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. People are offended by Autism Speaks because of a combination of actions and words that take on a shifty meaning because of said actions.

People with autism have every right to be offended by Autism Speaks. Not because they're selfish but because Autism Speaks' actions spell out 'here we'll just act on your behalf without actually taking YOUR input until you're normal like us' .

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
I get it now. And the whole "we're Autism Speaks, but autistics can't speak" is, just, how blockheaded do you have to be? Sorry I didn't look into this more before I posted. I wonder if there's an actual good organization out there that still advocates "making it history" but is....more like a foundation and less like 18th century missionaries.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Oh it's fine. :)

I think there are. http://autisticadvocacy.org/ < this one is about autistic advocating for themselves.

(That's all I really know at the moment.)

I think I was really emotional too after reading that stuff. It would be nice to have a cure but from a group I could trust.