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fandomsecrets2013-08-05 06:30 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2013-08-05 06:30 pm
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⌈ Secret Post #2407 ⌋
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I liked Jo, but they originally wrote her horribly. She got much better once they had her stop acting like a silly teenybopper. Anna was awesome. *sigh*
Bela...hard to say. She had a deal with a demon that came due, so she *did* have to die/disappear to hell. She also betrayed the boys on several occasions and wasn't ever going to be trusted enough to be a love interest. If they hadn't deliberately dumbed the boys (and even Bobby) down in her eps so she could be super-epic-hunter chick, i'd have been happier with her character.
I wanted Meg and Castiel to hook up so bad - that would have been awesome. The boys are just never going to have long-term love interests, their lives don't work that way. Even the 'established' hunters, barring Garth, don't seem to have that (Bobby, Frank, every random hunter we've ever met - they're all loners with no relationships going.)
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(Anonymous) 2013-08-07 12:22 am (UTC)(link)and:
Bela...hard to say. She had a deal with a demon that came due, so she *did* have to die/disappear to hell
That's exactly the point. Those characters were written and given those stories. Bela didn't have to have a demon deal. Ruby - don't even get me started. I loved Ruby in S3, thought she had great potential to be this partially "good", sympathetic demon while still remaining untrustworthy. They didn't have to reveal that she was working against Sam all along. They didn't have to paint her as breaking Sam and Dean up. But, they did.
And that's the point. And fans of the "brothers only" all hate Ruby, to this day, for the damage they perceive her as causing to the Sam/Dean relationship - when in fact it's Sam and Dean that let her get between them.
Anyway, my original point was that the show introduced all these female characters who had the potential to be awesome. And what happened after that is partly the writers fault, true. But the writers were also reacting to the huge fan backlash against them. And that appears, to me, to mostly have come from "Sam & Dean brothers only!" fans, most of whom also ship Wincest.
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Frankly, when Ruby was introduced, i thought to myself 'if she's a demon with a 'heart of gold', i'm gonna puke'. I don't know why, but the character grated, both actors. Meg i love. She's up front, she doesn't lie, or say 'i know stuff, but i'm not gonna tell you', she doesn't hide the fact that she's only going along to benefit herself.
Ruby was just too cliche, and i didn't like how she was written or, yes, how her deceit affected the boys. To have her still there, lying and hiding things and tricking them to 'now'? Season eight? Ridiculous. Even at their worst, the boys aren't that stupid.
It's a show about Sam and Dean and how hunting/monsters/angels/demons affects them, and how they deal with that life. Sorry if i'm more interested in that then 'Sam and Dean and how they find romance while hunting monsters'. I love Bobby and Castiel and Ellen and Jo and the Sheriff and Garth but the *best* episodes, to me, are the Sam&Dean episodes. Always have been.
And yes, i like them as a 'ship, but i'm not delusional enough to think they're ever going to 'go there' on the show, or go *anywhere*, for that matter, on the show. The boys will die either alone or with each other, not in a house with kids and a wife and a dog. And that's okay.