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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-09 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2411 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2411 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Supernatural/Jensen Ackles]


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[Mathias Lillmåns of Finntroll; Jonne Järvelä of Korpiklaani; Heri Joensen of Týr]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[The Sweeney]


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[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, RP]


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[Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea]


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[NCIS]


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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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[Daniel Sharman/Teen Wolf]


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[Chris Hardwick and Janet Varney]


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23. [SPOILERS for Strawberry Night, Strawberry Night: Invisible Rain]
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24. [WARNING for depression, abuse, suicide]

[Harry Potter]


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Notes:

Sorry about that, miscounted during the week and it was a bit longer than usual.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never yet found anyone who could give me a cogent account of what Snape actually did that was heroic.

There's lots of talk, but Dumbledore's masterplan is so complex, and DH is so full of random Dei Ex that I can't work out wtf Snape actually did that was of much use to anybody that couldn't have been managed in a much simpler way and that was driven by any qualities we'd typically regard as heroic.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'll tell you the one thing he did that made him heroic - he got to be Alan Rickman. The whole game changed from that point onwards.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
idk, I think that acting as a double agent within a cult of murderous evil wizards who would gleefully torture him to death if they discovered he was betraying them, to pass along information to the good guys about said evil cult's plans, is pretty heroic.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but that's kinda negated by the *joining the damn genocidal group in the first place*!

Also, he doesn't really quit cuz he realized that they're ideologically wrong and immoral - he quits for Lily. Which is fucked up.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of people have a hard time empathizing with the suffering of others in the abstract, and it only becomes "real" to them when it touches someone in their own lives. That speaks to a fairly rudimentary level of moral reasoning, but to be perfectly honest, it's a level that very many people never make it past. Often, though, when that suffering does touch someone they care about, they realize that the harmful thing actually IS a universal moral wrong -- they just couldn't see it until they were served up a personally-relevant object lesson. So I'm not sure it's fair to characterize his motives as "quitting for Lily," even though what happened to her was the catalyst. (It's been more than five years since I read the books, though, so if there was a specific line or passage you're thinking of that says otherwise, I could be mistaken.)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Except there's no real indication of him finding the Death Eaters' morality to be wrong, so much as him mostly wanting to bring down Voldemort, arguably out of revenge. The closest is when he snaps at Phineas Nigellus not to use the word Mudblood, and even that can be chalked down as it being the word that lost him Lily.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
This. There's no indication he did anything 'good' for any reason other than Lily and even that was a fucked up selfish sort of love as he still treated her son like shit.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-10 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The point is that love for other human beings can redeem us even under extreme circumstances. That isn't fucked up at all.