[ SECRET POST #2411 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2411 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Supernatural/Jensen Ackles]


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[Mathias Lillmåns of Finntroll; Jonne Järvelä of Korpiklaani; Heri Joensen of Týr]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[The Sweeney]


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[Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, RP]


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[NCIS]


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23. [SPOILERS for Strawberry Night, Strawberry Night: Invisible Rain]
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24. [WARNING for depression, abuse, suicide]

[Harry Potter]


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Notes:

Sorry about that, miscounted during the week and it was a bit longer than usual.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #344.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

seriously though, what is it about snape that makes people so willing to mark out for him

it's really mystifying to me (unless it actually just is "was played by alan rickman", and i really don't want to believe that)

[fingalsanteater]

I liked Snape before the movies, because he was an interesting and horribly flawed individual. I tend to block out the part of his story that ended with "I only did the things I did because I was obsessed with your mom." I tend to block out the entirety of the last book, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah but it's one thing to find him interesting and another thing entirely to defend him

just does not make a lick of sense

[fingalsanteater]

I think one could probably make a decent case for a more... flattering character interpretation than we are doing in this thread.

[asecretchord]

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

[fingalsanteater]

But we both ship the hell out of Snarry, so, at least for me, I also have to admit that I very influenced by that side of Snape fanon.

[asecretchord]

Very true, and I won't deny that, but one of the most intriguing things about Snape is that he's 256 shades of grey, and not in that wretched Twilight fanfic sense either. I like my ship and I'm happy being an oarsman there. :)

[caecilia]

my favorite part of the last book was when harry, ron, and hermione had a threeway marriage and lived for the rest of their days in the forest and sometimes luna was there too

[fingalsanteater]

my favorite part too

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I might consider shipping Ron/Hermione if it was part of a threesome with Harry.

[(Anonymous)]

I believe it >:C

Women give attractive men a free pass. Fandom curse.

[(Anonymous)]

Sexism aside, I'm a heterosexual male. And I think Snape was a good guy at the end of the series.

[(Anonymous)]

some of it is "was played by alan rickman".

a lot of it, though, is people framing Snape as the bullied geek and identifying with him, and placing James & co in the role of their own high school tormentors. Thus Snape is automatically good and the people who bullied him are irredeemably bad, because emotional response has no room for logic or nuance.

[(Anonymous)]

I think a lot of people are willing to be more sympathetic to shitty behavior that is the result of being a victim of bullying or other trauma than they are to forgive shitty behavior coming from someone of a privileged background who does terrible things to others apparently just for the hell of it. In both cases the things they do are shitty, but it's easier to understand someone who does horrible things because they are wounded and broken than someone who does horrible things because lol.

[(Anonymous)]

This and what the anon drectly above yor comment said.

[(Anonymous)]

Except framing Snapes actions as being "because" of his being bullied is a disservice to anyone who actually has been bullied.

He joined a genocidal terrorist group.

da

[(Anonymous)]

Which Genocidal Terror Groups target young men for. They look for the disenfranchised, the already frustrated, the fucked up and the weird and feed them a load of bollocks about what they can really be if the black man/white man/red man/muggle/whatever wasn't keeping them down.

Snape was ripe for the plucking. Add in a pack of good looking, attractive young men who are never punished for their regular abuse, his inability to get ahead in life under his own power, and then toss in Lucius Malfoy as a very persuasive recruiter and bam! He's a in a genocidal terrorist group though he gives 0 fucks about it's belief system (especially considering he's a halfblood himself) because it gives him validation and a social structure that supports him when no one else would.

He was systematically preyed upon by older 'children' when adults should have been watching out for this shit (both the Marauders and Luciu, if in different directions.) They knew the Big V was recruiting, and should have kept and eye out and intervened to keep him from getting his hooks in their kids (and yes, that means the Slytherins too!) We get NO evidence at all that anyone did, in any case.

This is basic Criminal Justice 101 and Sociology 101 stuff. It's not hard to figure out why he was easy pickings for the DE's, and why he turned on the ideology he had no real investiture in just as quickly.

Does it make him a good person when he swaps side? No. Sticking with that side for twenty motherfucking years, despite everything, regretting his stupidity, and still being flawed and seeing it out to the end? Yeah, I'm okay with him dying and attaining hero status.

PS: Neville had emotional difficulties stemming from issues at home long before he came to Hogwarts, contributing to the ease with which Snape terrified him. That doesn't excuse Snape's behavior at all -- but does magnify its impact on the poor kid!

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Snapes the reason Bella and the other found his parents and it's not like he didn't have some idea of what would happen, so Neville's homelife is *also* at least partical Snapes fault.

Also, none of what you said excuses or even properly explains joining a god damn genocidal terrorist group. I don't care how fucked up your homelife is "validation" isn't a fucking good enough reason for me to be even remotely more sympathetic to Snapes character.

In fact, it's worse. He can't even said he believed in the cause. He was just doing it to make himself feel better.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Cults prey on the vulnerable. That's how they operate. And, like many genocidal terrorist groups, the Death Eaters were a cult centered around Voldemort. Do some research into how real-world terrorist networks recruit new members -- they look for people who have a lot of potential but have suffered unjustly, and promise them a place where they will belong and be appreciated and have an opportunity to create a world in which the (perceived or real) injustices they suffered will be eliminated. Religious cults do the same thing, though usually with less violence at the end of it. Terrorist and cult leaders are master manipulators who target people thirsty for positive reinforcement. This is reality.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think people argue that Neville wasn't predisposed to be more terrified of Snape than other students. I think what enrages people is that Snape, being a part of the reason Neville's home life turned out as it did, didn't refrain from preying on those emotional difficulties and ramping them up to the eleventieth degree in his class.

It's unlikely Snape gave 0 fucks about the belief system. Lily stopped being friends with him over that belief system (he'd been espousing it to other Muggleborn students and finally to herself).