[ SECRET POST #2412 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2412 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Read my reply to kaijinscendre. I was using the examples to complain about the writers -- not Dean.

Uh, I didn't really read that much into Balthazar's line, and I'm pretty sure Dean didn't either? It's like when Meg called Cas Dean's boyfriend. They seem to be teasing Cas for the sacrifices he is willing to make for Dean when they are both much more self-involved. Dean not really having that much of a reaction...doesn't really prove anything?

Also, Dean not hating on the gay ghostfacer doesn't really prove anything either? I was talking about casual homophobia (which is a thing a lot of straight guys possess). Dean has said things that are pretty freaking homophobic and sexist. I dislike this aspect of his character.

You just said the show is homophobic, and you said Dean isn't written to be homophobic. The writers make the show, and they are the ones writing Dean. At a certain point, you have to acknowledge that the writers' sexism and homophobia has also influenced a character to a degree.

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ayrt

Maybe the thing is that I differentiate between 'saying sexist and homophobic things' and 'being sexist and homophobic'.

A really homophobic person or character would react at those jokes, somehow. Because they're jokes at the expense of his masculinity. The fact that he doesn't proves that he's not written as a homophobic character. (and good for you not to read anything on those lines, for me they're jokes. But they're jokes that a homophobe would take as offensive and horrible)

You didn't say that he was casually homophobic, you said that he was homophobic, and there's a difference between both.

Yes, the writer's sexism influence what Dean says. But so far, it hasn't make him homophobic or sexist. It's ok if you hate that he does say homophobic and sexist things, but seriously, it's like saying he's racist because most of the PoC characters in the show are evil and he kills them. (Again, the show is being racist, but Dean, as a character, has never been written as a racist man)