[ SECRET POST #2412 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2412 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

You set up a pretty ridiculous black and white view of fandom and fanfic writing though.

For a lot of people writing fanfic is not some ~artistic movement~, it is just fun. If people don't want concrit, let them. It doesn't actually harm you. And just cause they don't want concrit, doesn't mean they believe their fic is the best ever either. Everybody has different ways to unwind.

And before you begin, the whole 'it is posted in public so they should be open to it' argument is bullshit. If some dudes are shooting hoops in the park, everybody would consider you a dick if you just walked up there with no prior involvement and started coaching people about their throws. Fanfic is not any different.

[(Anonymous)]

But what should the default assumption be, if someone hasn't stated their feelings on concrit? I tend to assume people are open to it unless they state otherwise, because (lol black and white much?) fun and taking your work seriously are not opposites and most people are not going to fall apart when they hear someone else's opinion. You seem to be assuming that no one should ever give anyone concrit because it is all just 'fun' and 'fun' is the opposite of giving a shit.

[(Anonymous)]

I am not assuming that nobody should ever give concrit. Nobody should ever give unsolicited concrit or get irritated when people say they do not want concrit. If you aren't sure what an author's position on concrit is, you can always ask them. It takes five seconds and actually makes concrit into more of a dialogue than just a one-sided monologue.

Also, lets face it, 90% of the concrit giving online is shit, so it is not like people are missing out on anything. Too many people give concrit on subjective matters and not objective stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

First up, that's not true, I've benefited from some great concrit over the years, even the subjective stuff because it's interesting to see how different other people's points of view can be from mine. Secondly, 'one-sided monologue' is how I'd characterize the absence of concrit. Concrit is a dialogue we have with fic. It makes for a better atmosphere and more interesting conversation in fic fandoms. Any social hurdles to it like asking permission before speaking up tend to make fandoms worse IMO. The best way I've seen the issue dealt with is the few comms that encourage writers to say as much if they don't want to receive concrit - conversation in those comms tends to be good.

I don't know if it's just because I'm older and have been in fandom for a long time, but I just don't dig the idea of being part of a culture where the author broadcasts their fic and everyone else has to either applaud or keep quiet and then go bitch about it in private. That doesn't make sense to me, as fandom is a peer movement. It ends up with secrets like this; people backbitching about unassailable BNF celebulikes because they're discouraged from saying anything less than 100% positive about their work in public.