[ SECRET POST #2414 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2414 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Akumu-chan / My Little Nightmare]


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03.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Deanna Troi]


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04.
[The Borgias]


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05.
[Kaiba Seto and Jounouchi Katsuya from Yu-gi-oh!]


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06.
[Spring Breakers]


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07.
[Murder Rooms]


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08.
[Twin Peaks]


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09.
[Mass Effect]


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10.
[Despicable Me 2]


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11.
[Ice Age]


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12.
[Arrested Development]


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13.
[Super Junior]


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14.
[Halloween]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 064 secrets from Secret Submission Post #345.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

They were and are almost certainly right, though.

I mean, kind of fucked up that this is how the entertainment industry works, I guess, but that's not really they're fault, they're making the most rational choices available to them.

There is, I think, a fairly widespread perception in entertainment that the role of "Disney girl" is intrinsically limited, that if you want to have a long term career it is necessary to move on from that, that you need to have an "adult" image and reach as a star, and that in some ways the best way to do that is by going as far as possible. And I think that's basically true (in large part because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, but kind of true in and of itself). So, I mean, they were making a career move and I think it probably worked, even though the movie could have done better . And this is also what's going on with Miley's whole music career, probably more successfully. Can't rely on tweens forever. Gotta talk about drugs and sex.

[pantasma]

I agree. There is a limited type of character Disney creates for girls, be in live action or animation. But I think you can move on to adult roles without it being an X(XX)-Adult role. Sex and drugs sells in our society, definitely. No argument. And Disney/Nick actors do need to find other roles for continued work past the tiny-bopper fan stage.

There are other options, though, that don't require you to make that kind of movie, or make it in a serious tone. If it was like "Malibu's Most Wanted," which is ridiculous and over-the-top and doesn't take itself seriously, than I might take less issue with it. (Not that I would think it any better -- I didn't like MMB at all.)

Or if they hadn't made such a big deal in their interviews about how it was going to their break-through role, in the world of movie/real/big-kid acting. It seemed more an attempt to go from the Disney niche to the Disney-gone-wild niche.

It reads less as a valiant, all-in effort, more an over-the-top swan dive from an overzealous teen. It's perfectly acceptable to take smaller steps and work your way into movies through minor roles or cameos. Seems more practical, too, but that's coming from someone not involved in the industry.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the perception is that the more extreme the shift, the more effective it is likely to be. And again, this is to some extent a situation where perception determines reality.

[pantasma]

I think it influences decisions rather than determines reality. Because they could have done something that revolved less around sex and more around violence, like "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" (Swedish, 2009, haven't seen the English one) and it still would have been an extreme shift of a violent vein.

Have they become more popular outside of tiny-boppers since this movie?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really know. But it is, frankly, less about popularity with teenie-boppers, and more about giving people in the entertainment industry the idea that you can carry a film that's not for teenie-boppers. And I think it probably has done that. Gomez seems to be working on her singing career more (which does seem to be going well, and to be making a decent attempt at breaking out of the teen ghetto), and looking at wiki, Hudgens has roles lined up in an indie movie about a teen mother and a thriller about a serial killer (Hudgens and Gomez are the two who this discussion really applies to). So I think it's at least a qualified success.

[pantasma]

I meant to enquire about their popularity with a group other than the tiny-boppers.

I always thought Gomez's music was geared toward that group, still. Granted I don't choose to listen to it, but when I work (or go to the store, or ANYWHERE), if it's not Aha!, it's her.

That does sound like a qualified success, at least for the latter. I hadn't heard or seen anything with either of them in it, so thank you for sharing.