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Most of my family is Christian. With some of them, it doesn't matter what I am. With others, it does. The latter group causes some stress. I want to be who I am, but their bullshit restricts me (and, sure, if I were willing, I'd just write them off. But the connections they provide are valuable enough that I don't).

Nights like tonight, I just want to scream out loud to everyone about the gods. There are people I can't do this around, as noted above. But I can do it here.

Tyr,, Odin, and Freyja...BIG FUCKING EMPHASIS ON FREYJA RIGHT NOW...HAIL! For everything and nothing (because nothing is actually pretty cool sometimes), for reason and wisdom and sexuality in all its forms and life and death and fire and the calm after the storm and the scent of purpose on this breeze FUCK YEAH!

If there are any of you out there that feel so inclined, I wish you this connection and a bountiful night! And I think that's probably why I felt the need to say it here, because I could scream it into an echo chamber and get back everything that the selfish part of me craves. But that wasn't the inclination. And I don't think it should be.

... are you drunk

No.

Hopefully, you're not representative. But if you are...ah well. Good to know for the future.

da

it's not what you are saying, it's the weird inner-narration rambling way you're saying it

Hm. Yeah, I can see what you're saying.

Maybe there's something about how I experience spiritual connection that makes me seem drunk? Might be useful to tone that down in future extrapolations/explanations.

Then again, maybe I shouldn't be so concerned with the manner of my expression.

ayrt

this is just my two cents, but, from personal experience has someone with a "non-standard" religious belief, it's better not to get into those sorts of discussions

seriously they just alienate people

you are not going to win anyone over and convince them that your way is the way or super normal or anything, even though you are defending something that seems perfectly rational

it's best to stop caring so much about what other people believe

i mean, yeah, some are nosy but i've found that if you stand your ground and be all like "naw, it's private, let's talk about something else" they either respect that or give up, unless they are super stubborn grade a jerks or something

It's a bit strange to me that that's where you've gone with this, but...I'll take it at face value.

I'm interested in sharing, as the act of sharing is itself meaningful to me. I do want to find others who believe what I do, but I'm not interested in convincing others of same, because from my perspective, that not rational.

I have family members who will disown me if they find out that I am not Christian. As a result, I keep what I believe secret from them. For me, when you tell me that it is best to stop caring about what others believe, you are telling me two things: a) that I should stop caring about the fact that I will be set apart from a particular segment of my family and b) that I should stop seeking others who feel the way that I do. Logically, I see what you are getting at: my personal belief exists apart from the beliefs of others. But I object to the idea that caring about what others believe is in conflict with that tenet.

YOU ARE A BERSERKER

NO YOU

nayrt

but i think the reason they're asking has more to do with your enthusiasm than anything else. because you come off as really, really... really enthusiastic. the kind of enthusiastic that some people might well associate with drinking.

There's nothing wrong with it though! I'm glad you're that enthusiastic.

What both the anons above me said, plus the weird 'This happened to me a while back but I randomly thought of it so I'mma ramble!' that sometimes happens with people who're drunk.

Ah, but it is not something of a while back; it is something that is currently in progress.

I wonder if that is the nature of intensely spiritual experiences. At the moment, I've only got sample size of one, so who can say? It might be something to think about when I've got others around me, or when I'm evaluating group experiences after the fact.

I easily could have written this. I also come from an (entirely!) Christian family. I'm just not comfortable going into the inevitably deep discussions about why I left Christianity, and why I prefer my gods and goddesses, and all that.

Whenever I get frustrated at people just not getting me being pagan, I like to climb a hill and yell into the wind. Yelling into the internet seems a lot more convenient!

Not my set of gods, but Freya totally would be, like, top three if I went Norse. You have a nice set, there.

May Tyr always fight on your side!

Yelling into the wind sounds quite cathartic; I probably ought to try it.

I don't know what gods you call your own, but much honor to them!

He can't see shit

And I honestly don't think becoming some kind of Norse street corner preacher is going to do you any good

The best you'll get is some confused Skyrim cosplayers and some guys who got into Astaru in prison for racist reasons

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Unless you can play sax in snaketime, because Moondog.

He's also a little dead at the moment.

Really, though, it's not so much a street preacher thing as a, "I WANT TO SHOUT THIS TO THE WORLD RIGHT NOW" thing. There are people who will answer in kind, and I welcome them, but I do not expect them.

I am perpetually distressed by the racists, however. I am also distressed by the fact that proper prison outreach has been hampered by said racists.

What? If you're not drunk are you high? Perhaps get some rest then come back and re-read in the morning. You may get why some of us are baffled

I think I get it already.

But, ah well. I felt a need and responded to it, for better or for worse.

for what it's worth, anon, i kinda get where you're coming from.

sometimes when you're happy about something and or it's just plain awesome, you just want to shout it out loud. :)

i'm not a pagan.

but i'm glad you're feeling awesome right now, despite other difficulties in your life. all the best with your family relationships and your spiritual journey.

After the fact, but I wanted to say it never occurred to me to question if you were drunk or high or really sleep deprived or something. I wouldn't expect anyone to talk about spiritual matters in a calm, simple sentence way. You made perfect sense to me, anon.

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