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⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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Comments

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I enjoy ABO and even I have no problem avoiding it.

Sherlock Fandom: John/Sherlock, Completed, English Language Stories: 16623 When I search for Omega: 207. OR 1.24%

Supernatural Fandom: Castiel/Dean, Completed, English Language Stories: 12763
When I search for Omega: 76 OR 0.59%

Teen Wolf Fandom: Stiles/Derek, Completed, English Language Stories: 11934
When I search for Omega: 157 OR 1.3.

So I am calling complete bullshit with this being a problem that isn't EASILY avoidable.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

You're being kind of dumb here.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

How?

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

Different anon

For me, the problem isn't so much the quantity of it per fandom, though there is a lot, as the cliche nature of it and the fact that it hits several of my major squick buttons and is an inherently problematic kink. I'm not condemning people who do enjoy it, but I personally am sick of seeing it at all.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

is an inherently problematic kink.

Because there are no ABO writers who explore the implications of the setting and write about characters who seek equal, consensual relationships within it. There's no way to write ABO that isn't all-rape-and-misogyny, all-the-time.

...Oh wait.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

Not denying this - but affected consent is still presented as something for someone to enjoy/get off on most of the time, even if not by those authors. It's also a trope where consent issues are inherent, even if they're approached in certain ways. I'm afraid I still think it's generally a fucked-up kink, and don't enjoy the fic that comes out of it.

I didn't intend to start an argument - though "inherently problematic" is rather a loaded phrase, I admit. I'm sure you have a point. There are ways to write this trope that address its potentially problematic elements (and I've tried reading stories that attempt this). But the issues that make up the foundations of an omega 'verse remain, in my eyes.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough. Oddly, I think I'm approaching the 'verse from an unusual angle: my kink is for enthusiastic, uncoerced consent, and people care about and who prioritize ensuring that their partners are genuinely willing -- and it's easier to emphasize that in a setting in which that attitude is not the default expectation.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

SA: It's one of mine too (big consent) but for me the 'verse has the opposite effect. Thanks for understanding, anon.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT: Right back at you. I like when these conversations turn out respectfully.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, to be completely fair, having 1% of the fics for a popular pairing falling into just one kink is a huge amount. Statistically significant, no, but if there were only 100 possible kinks, the A/B/O tag still would have more than its fair share.

And I say this as someone who likes and has written A/B/O. It's a very popular trope right now and, of course, it's not just the completed fics that cause overexposure. The XMFC kink meme easily had ten A/B/O prompts a page when I left, and I'm sure that didn't help anyone's dislike of the verse.

Re: Venting/kink thread.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm surprised the numbers aren't higher in Teen Wolf fandom.