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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-17 01:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2419 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Notes:

Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
He did this retelling of Snow White from the queen's POV and I just felt... sketched out throughout. It was just so lurid, like, "sexual predator woman feeding on men", and I never bought his writing as the queen's voice. It was just off for me.
I'm super tired of male writers making a huge deal of how ~feminist~ they are, though. Go write your ladies but don't applaud yourself over it every time, FFS. (Looking at you too, Joss Whedon. del Toro's comments on Pacific Rim that everyone keeps fawning over, too. wow good job you wrote a woman as a human being.)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah...I really liked the (not original, but never tiresome, IMO) idea behind it, but the queen didn't seem to have much personality, for all she was powerful and decent. I'd rather she was a passionate villain than a cold heroine.

Oh, and the adoration for male creators who don't light their female characters on fire is the worst. I start off appreciating their efforts and end up resenting them because they just wrote a balanced story, they didn't hang the moon.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
...I read that as 'bang' the moon, and now I can't get that picture out of my head

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
The thing about Del Toro's comments is, the stuff he did with Mako really is unusual in Hollywood, particularly action films. And I think talking about that will help call attention to the problem and possibly prompt more film creators to challenge the status quo.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking as someone who adores Gaiman, not just as a writer, but as a human being, I've read pretty much every interview he has ever given. I can't remember a single time where he presented himself as a feminist, or in any way made a big deal about how he writes female characters.

His fans are another story, but I try my best not to let someone's fans dictate how I feel about them.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I follow his tumblr and that's where I get the vibe. Not as self-congratulatory as Whedon (who is?), but still a bit of an eyeroll at times.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-08-18 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
There is a very good chance I'm missing something here as I tend not to follow celebrities of any kind too closely, but I've never gotten the impression these guys presented themselves as feminists. Usually, it was just some interviews or whatever that they talk about strong, female characters or something, and then fandom just takes that and runs with it, blowing up that reputation and leading only to disappointment when these guys, not actually being perfect feminists or anything, fall short.