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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-17 01:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2419 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2419 ⌋

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Way early because taking dog to the vet. :c

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
a trio of incredibly powerful women who never have anything better to do with their (eons of) time but nurture the (often useless and incredibly troublesome) hero

*nods* And, to focus on this idea a little more, I think it's significant that Gaiman often writes positive depictions of ordinary men but pretty much never (as far as I'm aware; I haven't read all of his stuff) writes positive depictions of ordinary women. It seems that he believes that male characters can propel a narrative just by existing, while female characters can only propel a narrative when they're magical and/or otherworldly and/or dead.

(An exception that proves the rule is Coraline: first because she's a girl rather than a woman, and second because even she is weirder and more unique than most of his everyman characters.)
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-08-18 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't considered this, but now that I think about it, it's true. Daisy in Anansi Boys might be another exception; before she became the main character's accessory, she was proactive and pretty cool. All the other ordinary women I can think of are either irrelevant or hostile for no apparent reason.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how you're defining "ordinary," but I'd consider Foxglove and Hazel from Sandman and the Death spin-off both ordinary and positively depicted. I'd also put Daisy Day and Coraline in that category, and Samantha Black Crow from American Gods. (Though he kills her off, so maybe she doesn't count.)

Also, he's a fantasy author. A *lot* of his characters are either magical or dead. I wish he used more non-magical female central characters, but the list of "ordinary" Gaiman protagonists of any gender is already pretty short. Which is not to say you don't have a point, just that I don't think it's clear-cut.