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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-18 03:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2420 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2420 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
***SPOILERS FOR A FEAST FOR CROWS***




I wonder how the show will handle her being a flop ruler and how she effectively fucks things up faster than even Littlefinger could predict.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
SPOILERS FOR ADWD.

She didn't fuck up shit, Varsys did. Or Robert did. She barely had the throne and people give her shit about being paranoid and out to get her? Um. SHE WAS.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
No. She really fucked things up. She removed every person who would have been able to counsel and support her because she thought she was an amazing natural ruler.

THEN, when things went to hell because of it, Varys killed the one person who would have been able to help her get out of her predicament. But she got there on her own.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because giving power to the Faith WASN'T a huge fuck up on her part

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL yes she did. Cersei is someone who thinks she would make a good ruler when she has had no training for it, but she thinks just because she has the ambition for it it makes her awesome.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Listen, anon, I love the shit out of Cersei Lannister. I think she is an awesome, sympathetic-but-totally-screwed-up character, and I even agree that the level of hatred she gets is likely misogynist a lot of the time (not because she doesn't deserve hatred, but because some of the hatred centers around her sexuality or motherhood, etc., and because a lot of dudes who've done similarly atrocious things get handwaved or adored by the same people [see: Tywin Lannister]). That said, um. No, Cersei is a really, really bad ruler. She really should be paranoid, it's true, but she removes and alienates potential allies, depends on some shady-ass people to stay loyal to her, and is always looking for the wrong enemy, while letting her entire kingdom go even more to hell.

I love that about Cersei's story; it's her particular tragic irony. She is supposed to be paranoid, but she's so caught up in her paranoia that she keeps missing the forest for the trees. I would bet serious internet dollars that Jaime turns out to be the valonqar rather than Tyrion, because it would fit so perfectly with the rest of her "right but wrong" paranoia.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
HAHA, no. She was drunk and terrible at pretty much every facet of ruling. She might have been, once, before she was beaten down and constantly downing wine, but by the time she had the reigns, she was resoundingly horrible as a ruler. (I still enjoy her character, and am disgusted by some of the shit GRRM pulled with her, but a great Queen, she was not.)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I wonder how she would have fared had Joffrey not died. Because I think it seriously unhinged her. The drinking certainly didn't help.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Hard to say. Something else would have probably pushed her over the edge sooner or later. Maybe Jaime coming back sans hand and with Brienne and no longer being completely devoted to her. Maybe some other shit. But I think everyone else is better off with Joffrey dead, so...her mental stability will have to take the blow.