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⌈ Secret Post #2420 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

She isn't even good at being badass. It's like Derek Hale. Continually flopping.

[(Anonymous)]

***SPOILERS FOR A FEAST FOR CROWS***




I wonder how the show will handle her being a flop ruler and how she effectively fucks things up faster than even Littlefinger could predict.

[(Anonymous)]

SPOILERS FOR ADWD.

She didn't fuck up shit, Varsys did. Or Robert did. She barely had the throne and people give her shit about being paranoid and out to get her? Um. SHE WAS.

[(Anonymous)]

No. She really fucked things up. She removed every person who would have been able to counsel and support her because she thought she was an amazing natural ruler.

THEN, when things went to hell because of it, Varys killed the one person who would have been able to help her get out of her predicament. But she got there on her own.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, because giving power to the Faith WASN'T a huge fuck up on her part

[(Anonymous)]

LOL yes she did. Cersei is someone who thinks she would make a good ruler when she has had no training for it, but she thinks just because she has the ambition for it it makes her awesome.

[(Anonymous)]

Listen, anon, I love the shit out of Cersei Lannister. I think she is an awesome, sympathetic-but-totally-screwed-up character, and I even agree that the level of hatred she gets is likely misogynist a lot of the time (not because she doesn't deserve hatred, but because some of the hatred centers around her sexuality or motherhood, etc., and because a lot of dudes who've done similarly atrocious things get handwaved or adored by the same people [see: Tywin Lannister]). That said, um. No, Cersei is a really, really bad ruler. She really should be paranoid, it's true, but she removes and alienates potential allies, depends on some shady-ass people to stay loyal to her, and is always looking for the wrong enemy, while letting her entire kingdom go even more to hell.

I love that about Cersei's story; it's her particular tragic irony. She is supposed to be paranoid, but she's so caught up in her paranoia that she keeps missing the forest for the trees. I would bet serious internet dollars that Jaime turns out to be the valonqar rather than Tyrion, because it would fit so perfectly with the rest of her "right but wrong" paranoia.

[(Anonymous)]

HAHA, no. She was drunk and terrible at pretty much every facet of ruling. She might have been, once, before she was beaten down and constantly downing wine, but by the time she had the reigns, she was resoundingly horrible as a ruler. (I still enjoy her character, and am disgusted by some of the shit GRRM pulled with her, but a great Queen, she was not.)

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes I wonder how she would have fared had Joffrey not died. Because I think it seriously unhinged her. The drinking certainly didn't help.

[(Anonymous)]

Hard to say. Something else would have probably pushed her over the edge sooner or later. Maybe Jaime coming back sans hand and with Brienne and no longer being completely devoted to her. Maybe some other shit. But I think everyone else is better off with Joffrey dead, so...her mental stability will have to take the blow.

[elaminator]

...Derek was badass. Like once.

Okay, yea, the show refuses to let him win fights or be the least bit happy for more than five minutes; I feel bad for the guy.

[(Anonymous)]

He always leaps down stairs in the most badass way.

[elaminator]

Haha, it's certainly more dramatic than just walking down the stairs. I always laugh at it but he has to keep up the tough guy image somehow.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, stairs are Derek's mortal nemesis! The one time he ended up on them they broke his back in like six places. That's why he has to always jump over them.

[elaminator]

I shouldn't be laughing so hard at this

Not even stairs. Derek can't even have stairs. Nothing is safe for him. Not fighting, not sex, not simply existing...

[darkmanifest]

Oh, no, don't tell me he's still succumbing to The Worf Effect? I haven't started Season 3 yet and I was hoping he'd be past that.

[elaminator]

Oh man...

You're in for some major disappointment. Derek is the biggest butt monkey to ever butt monkey; his life actually gets worse in season 3. You may ask yourself how that's even possible, but oh, believe me, it is.

I'm so tired of the writers shitting on Derek. So tired.

[darkmanifest]

Jesus. I just facepalmed so hard I think I gave myself a concussion. Goddamnit, writers.

[elaminator]

This season has been a mess all around tbh. Convoluted, not enough character development (esp of the newer characters) or explanations, seemingly forgotten plot points...idk, I know the other seasons had their issues as well, and while there are things I've liked about it, overall it feels like they just tried to do too much and failed. I'm hoping the second half of the season is better.

I'm also probably expecting too much from the show, to be quite honest.

[(Anonymous)]

When?

Honestly, though, poor Derek, every terrible damn thing that happened in Beacon Hills is directly tied to his actions. Mostly because he fails at everything he even attempts. Like, I'm pretty sure the only reason he hasn't died from accidentally slitting his own throat shaving is because his werewolf healing keeps him from dying when he does it.

[elaminator]

Like, I'm pretty sure the only reason he hasn't died from accidentally slitting his own throat shaving is because his werewolf healing keeps him from dying when he does it.

lmao

oh god

That's more accurate than I'd like to admit.

every terrible damn thing that happened in Beacon Hills is directly tied to his actions

It is, though. It really is. Everything bad happens because of Derek's existence. The poor guy can't take a shit without someone betraying him or causing some accidental death. It's just the way things are. I'm hoping things change for him soon because I like him and he has good intentions, and it's just so depressing to see him try to pull himself up and get kicked while he's down again and again. Like, just let him have something. Just once. Let him turn his life around! Otherwise...what's the point of keeping him around? (And I say this as someone who would never want to see him leave the show, but god, why would the actor want to stick around for several more seasons of this?)

[(Anonymous)]

Preach it. Like...they've made their universe SO SMALL by making Derek the cause of every bad thing. His contrived man-pain made huge chunks of the last season almost un-watchable (hopefully to be redeemed by the finale?).

And the worst part is that Hoechlin seems like a decent actor, really. If they'd give him actual shit to work with, I think he could work with it. But as it is...IDK, I wouldn't be heartbroken if he went to find a job that didn't make him the epicenter of the shitstorm of sadness and woe.

[elaminator]

they've made their universe SO SMALL by making Derek the cause of every bad thing

I honestly don't think the writers see this. Or maybe they do and just don't care. I'm not sure which is worse tbh, but what they did with Cora was just...arg. On top of everything else this season, that pissed me off so much. WHY YOU DO THIS JEFF

Let Derek have something other than pain. It gets old, and it becomes a thing, and it isn't clever or fun, it just comes off as kind of embarrassing and poor writing. Find something else to do with him! (And seriously, find other ways to bring new antagonists in. It seems they did that last episode so I hope they stick to it.)

I've never seen Hoechlin in anything else, but I don't have an issue with his acting. They just need to do something else with his character now so the poor guy can have some fun/something interesting to do.

I wouldn't be heartbroken if he went to find a job that didn't make him the epicenter of the shitstorm of sadness and woe.

I wouldn't blame the guy, not in the least, but I would be heartbroken. Because he's so very, very pretty, and Derek deserves something good in his life, and I'd love to see him interact with the rest of the cast in meaningful ways while he is NOT getting shit on. COME ON TEEN WOLF, YOU CAN DO IT.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, the fact that all shitty things lead back to Derek is actually straining the bounds of believablility for me.

And I am willing to give a show about teenage werewolves A LOT of leeway with the believability.

spoilers for all of teen wolf, including season 3

[elaminator]

When?

Oh, and... I thought it was pretty damn cool when he protected Stiles from Isaac, but then again that didn't require much effort on his part. (Still, it looked neat!)

Derek just can't win at fights though, unless it's against Scott or his betas. The railroad scene with him fighting Isaac and Erica made the two of them look incompetent, so while Derek came out on top...it wasn't exactly impressive.

And he holds his own against Scott? But he's been a werewolf his whole life and Scott clearly hasn't, so that isn't exactly something to brag about either.

Fucking hell show, I want to make Derek look badass, WHY WON'T YOU LET ME?!

...

Uhhhhhhh, okay, he was kinda badass when he just stood there and let Boyd and Cora claw him this season (wasn't it Boyd and Cora?)? Granted, he didn't really do anything, but I find that kind of selfless sacrifice all kinds of attractive.

(But it isn't just him. Scott and the rest of the gang are pretty incapable of taking out any of the major baddies, too.)