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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-18 03:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2420 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it depends on your definition of a feminist character, for me a feminist character does not have to be a good guy, they just have to be a "complete" character. Complete means that they have their own thoughts, motivations, their own struggles... basically they have agency and they are equal to any of their male counterparts.

I think by this definition Cersei passes. That does not mean she's a good person nor should her actions be excused, it just means she's a good CHARACTER.

Equality is not about having perfect female characters who never do bad things or go through bad things, equality is about letting female characters be just as diverse and interesting as their male counterparts.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with that, but I think they meant "feminist character" as in "feminist role-model".

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT. I considered that, but I also thought it was possible that the people who are calling her a "feminist character" have the same line of thinking I do so I just thought I'd get my opinion out there.

Cersei fans are diverse enough it's possible for both to be true, some fans like her because she's interesting and know full well that she's evil and some fans stan her to death and excuse everything she does. It just depends on who you're talking to.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Agree.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2013-08-18 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
This is probably the best reasoning I've heard regarding her as a character. I must give this serious thought. And possibly re-read the books.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-18 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
This. To say she's a feminist person definitely seems wrong, but the most terrible villain can be a feminist character as long as she's developed as a complicated individual.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-18 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Ssssh. All women are awesome and if you don't agree you're a misogynist

We will only have true equality in sci fi and fantasy when there are no female antagonists.
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[personal profile] miarrow 2013-08-18 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I totally agree. Having a full, diverse cast of different types of women is more important than making them all fit some kind of imaginary archetype, even if that means some of them aren't likable as people -- doesn't mean they're bad characters.