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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-19 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2421 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it's a weird story, apparently. Gipsy Danger was named after an aircraft engine (something with a military plane, I forget), which in the world of Pacific Rim makes sense. Someone named it after their favourite plane without thinking about how the original got its name. When the original came about, there was a lot of romanticism going on with Romani and traveler types. (Kind of like the brief French rage where everyone was naming their girls things like Brigitte and Claudette, etc.)

For a lot of people, in my experience, they don't associate "gypsy" with real people anymore because of all that same romanticism, and aren't actually trying to be racist weirdos when they say "gypped". They just think of Hunchback of Notre Dame, which, if you're going to ask me what offended me more, I wrote a paper in college about the mindless racism in that movie. It was a long paper. It quickly descended into ranting, not going to lie.

My cousin is actually pretty psyched over the name, oddly enough. At least someone is using the word in a positive way, for once, in his mind.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2013-08-20 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The plane was called "Gipsy Moth" - it was a souped up version of the DH 60 Moth. The engine was designed for the plane, so the name Gipsy Moth was a play on the actual Gypsy Moth. Though as Lymantria dispar is massively destructive, arguably there is a slur at the back of the name, though I suspect it wasn't in de Haviland's mind when he chose it.

a lot of people, in my experience, they don't associate "gypsy" with real people

I think there's a cultural difference here. In the UK, "gypsy" is definitely associated with real people, and it's definitely a slur, though not as bad as "gyppo". On the other hand, I wouldn't have known what "gypped" meant, it's not a term I've ever heard before.