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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-22 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2424 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2423 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Because textbook misogynist characters are so kawaii?

I really hope the maker of this secret isn't a girl.
But I shouldn't be surprised...because Ramsay fangirls are a thing that won't go away.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's not even just that he's a misogynist, he's a complete reprehensible monster to everyone he comes into contact with.

And if nothing else, at least most Ramsay fangirls (the ones who've read the books anyway) don't woobify him or have delusions that he's not a sick fuck.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Misogyny aside: Fantasizing about sexing (->being loved) by a monster is basically a very egotistical idea. Because the worse the monster, the better the girl/angel must be who could hope to tame him/make him human.

It's one of the most common fantasies around and it's why "Beauty and the Beast" is a classic. It's why "Jaildate"-services are popular and why Nazis are common fantasy-fodder. It can of course be very unhealthy to hook up with a violent criminal once he gets out.

tl;dr Don't try this at home, kids: maladjusted guys can easily kill you.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Get over yourself

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
You first, bitch.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you using such a misogynistic term as an insult? Is being a female a negative connotation for you? Check your privilege.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not everyone has kawaii fantasies. And fantasies are not IRL... Is this the "women who fantasise about rape have internal misogyny"? Because any kind of fantasy about non consent and violence is obviously a fantasy, and some of us are naturally masochistic.

(I'm not a Ramsay fan, squicks me out no end, but YKINMK and all.)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Ramsay's a traditional psychopath and it's clear he gets off on violence against men just as much as he does with women, if not moreso given his treatment of Theon.

But of course the SJWs will make it a ~sexism~ issue.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm an SJW and I made it a bdsm issue. As in, it's fine.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ramsay is a classic misogynist. A textbook example.

The people who try to classify Ramsay as something else or deny it will never learn, you fuckers are the worst. The crack at SJWs earns you a 4/10 score for trolling.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Ramsay is a classic misogynist. A textbook example.

Explain how his treatment of women differs from how he treats the men that he tortures.

The crack at SJWs earns you a 4/10 score for trolling.

Do you deny that's what you are?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Does he undress them and rape them?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
sa

Okay, I'm a different anon, actually. I believe that there are definitely misogynistic elements in how he treats women, but I won't deny that he's pretty cruel towards both genders.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's implied that he does stuff to Theon, yes. There's a line about how only Ramsay would see him naked, he walks around with him on a leash, etc.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Considering how he has no problem invading Theon's space as the latter bathes, telling him he can only take his clothes off at his command, kissing him, referring to him as his property, collaring him, castrating him, and involving him in sexual acts, I'd say he most assuredly did with Theon. What's worse is that Theon had to endure this dehumanization every day, rather than being killed afterwards like Ramsay's usual victims.

But other than him, Ramsay's sexual violence is mostly fixated on women, though he's still awful to both genders. He's a psychopath through and through.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Misogyny is your take-away?

Dude, the guy's a fucking psychopath. He likes torturing people, male and female, not because he's full of hate, but because he's a sick twisted freak.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Misogyny is your take-away?

Why wouldn't it be? Is your twisted little mind trying to invalidate a perfectly valid trait to Ramsay's character? Is "misogynist" a taboo word now?

Can he not be a psychopath and misogynist? Is he somehow LESS misogynist and MORE psychopathic? Or are you just in full on denial? Dude?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
But tell us how you really feel about this and people disagreeing with you.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
But you imply that that's the worst thing about him rather than the fact that he's a sadistic despicable POS who tortures anyone regardless of gender.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
You manage to rally against sexism and be sexist in the same post. Bravo.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Cersei's a misogynist who's done or has had horrible things done to women, do you have problem with female readers liking her?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-23 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh hi, it's you again.

I wonder why you always focus on the "women hating" part of a character more than anything else. It really seems like a weird fetish.