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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-24 03:21 pm

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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-08-24 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The one thing that irks me when it comes to the Disney Princesses wank is that most of the stories are reinterpretations of fairy tales, and feminism is not even a thing in this part of literary culture.

I dunno about that, fairy tales are one of the few genres of stories where having a bunch of interesting female characters as the main heroes and villains, the centerpieces of the story rather than on the sidelines of some Dude Hero's epic adventure, wasn't a rare exception, but common. They always struck more as more unintentionally feminist than most literature (especially depending on the version i.e. The Grandmother's Tale versus Red Riding Hood).

(Anonymous) 2013-08-25 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't say unintentionally. You gotta remember that a lot of these stories came from oral tradition, and served as advice for children and adults alike. There's nothing indicating that it wasn't women passing on these stories at some point or another. It's just that the advice they offered was based on the social mores of the time.

Obviously they are not modern-feministic, but a lot of them were for women.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-08-27 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
True, I've read in several places that fairytales were often told by women (and shaped by them) at many points - salons in the 18th century, women's sewing circles, mothers to their children. Just because the word "feminism" hadn't been invented yet back then didn't mean there weren't women-positive things going on.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-27 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
Also, there are definitely feminist fairy tales out there. East of the Sun, West of the Moon comes to mind whenever this discussion comes up.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-08-27 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
My favorite fairytale of all time for exactly that reason.