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As long as they don't involve twilight, don't use it as an excuse for shipping two actors the inevitably teenaged writer finds hawt, and limit it to just two shows, they are tolerable.

Now fusion fics, with the one exception of Ranma/Sailor Moon for the sole reason of fuku-ficcing, need to all DIAF!

But yeah. Most crossovers are an overdone mess with too many ingredients in them to be even slightly readable. The authors need to learn a little restraint.

And they certainly need to learn not to nerf one or more of the shows just to make their one true chosen movie team look so utterly awesome and be the awesomest awesomes ever. Fucking Joss Whedon fans, they all need to DIAF2.

Yes. All Avengers fans are terrible people who should die.

That's a sensible position.

Sounds good to me.

Actually I was thinking of the Firefly fans. Joss's Avengers fans are pretty okay. It is just the ones who are also Firefly fans that are the problem. The show was cancelled just before the shit started to show, be grateful it was.

You said "movie team," and this crossover universe includes Avengers, not Firefly.

Yeah, yeah, I know Firefly wound up getting a movie. But given the givens, referencing Avengers seems logical.

Browncoats can be so obnoxious

Particularly the ones who were bashing a movie director because he didn't allow Jewel Staite to go home early to attend a friend's birthday party

If Helen Mirren couldn't get time off from National Treasure 2 to accept an invitation to have tea at Buckingham Palace with the Queen I don't see why a director should have to screw up filming schedules to allow Staite to attend a party

I kind of think that Helen Mirren should have been allowed to have tea with the Queen, and I kind of think that saying, "well because she wasn't able to do that THEN NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING" is a stupid argument.

serious question - do you ask your boss if you can go home from work early just to attend a party? and if you did, and your boss refused, would you call up your friends and have them mass-call, e-mail, and harass your boss for not letting you go home early to attend a party?

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(Anonymous) - 2013-08-26 11:33 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) - 2013-08-26 12:49 (UTC) - Expand

The ones who get my goat are the ones who hate on Castle and constantly rail that it should be cancelled so Nathan Fillion can 'bring back Firefly' which is... so stupid in so many ways.

Castle should be cancelled so Nathan Fillion can attend fat camp.

AGREED.

Your last sentence is pretty much my history with Avengers crossover fics, alas. (Except I don't want them to DIAF, I want them to stop with the bad OOC woobie fics.)

What's the difference between a crossover and a fusion fic?

Crossover fics are basically 'when X and Y meet'. Better explanation is here, but in this case, it's like Doctor Who and Torchwood, Marvel vs. DC, or -more infamously enough- The Jetsons Meet the Flintstones. (All of which are actual things that happened)

Fusion fic essentially is taking an element from Series A, and adapting it to Series B's universe/characters. A recent/popular example are Jaeger Pilot AUs, using the Drift/Jaeger concepts from 'Pacific Rim', but adapted for another series' universe. Like to name an example, a Mass Effect/Pacific Rim fusion fic where they pilot Jaegers to fight the Reapers. Or Hogwarts AUs in general, for that matter. Sometimes characters from Series A appear, but that varies.

Edited 2013-08-26 00:00 (UTC)

Crossover fics don't require any intelligence, effort, or imagination to be written.

Fusion fics require a person with intelligence, creativity, knowledge about the canons involved, and imagination to tie it all together into a symphony of literary awesomeness.

We'll break right here for five hours of hysterical laughter at this post.

I'm also laughing at the poor idiots who have no imagination.

Hahaha, no.

Fusion fics are the bane of smaller fandoms, especially on AO3, where bigger fandoms clog up the tag for your fandom with their bloody fusions and characters and OTPs that you have zero fucking interest in reading BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THAT TAG FOR THE ACTUAL CANON KTHNX, not other fandoms stealing its setting.

Yeah, I can see where that would be a source of agitation. (I sort of feel sorry for Pacfic Rim fans who are interested in the canon cast, since nearly all of the fics I've seen roll across my dash are fusion fics, with nary a Raliegh or Mako in sight)

At least FF.Net, for all its warts and failings, has a separate crossover section where all that stuff can be dumped and -for lack of a better term- segregated from the standalone fandoms. Kinda wish AO3 had something like that, but ah well.

If only they would enforce that separation. Way too many hit-whores shove their crappy fusion or crossover in one of the main categories, and the Pit never move them even when they are flagged.

Maybe people just need to MOVE ON from the results they don't like.

I also have to see a lot of Supernatural/Dr Who/Sherlock shit in my HP results, but you don't see me bitching about it, do you???

Only people who whine about it are little assholes who can't let others enjoy their crap in peace.

You are irrefutable proof that fans can be boring as hell.

And stupid as fuck, if you can't skip over stories you don't like.

How utterly FWP. "Bwaaaaah! I'm seeing results I don't like! Bwaaaaah!"

Grow up, moron.

Edited 2013-08-26 20:05 (UTC)

lol @ you

lol @ assholes who don't have imaginations.

Fandom examples are Pacific Rim and The Hobbit.

Crossover: The Company of Thorin Oakenshield somehow get transported several thousand years into the future and dumped in Hong Kong just as the final attempt to close the rift is starting to get into gear. The meet such people as Raleigh, Mako, Stacker, Newton, Hermann, Herc and Chuck. Alongside trying to close the rift, a way has to be found to send the Dwarves (and Hobbit) home.

Fusion: Thorin Oakenshield is a Jaeger pilot, fighting Kaiju that are attacking Middle Earth. Possibly other Dwarves are pilots too (usually Fili and Kili are partners).

Fusion takes the plot premise of one story and transposes it into the setting of the other. Possibly also transposing character roles as well (one of the two fics I'm reading Thorin is in the role of Raleigh, while Bilbo has the aproximate role of Mako).