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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-27 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2429 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2429 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Arrested Development]


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[George R.R. Martin]


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[Bee and PuppyCat]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Resident Evil 6]


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[The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings]


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[Naruto]


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[Jin, Hanzawa Naoki]


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[Neverwinter Nights]


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11.
[Shina Dark]


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12.
[Thomas Gibson from the series Criminal Minds]












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[personal profile] philstar22 2013-08-27 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
At least he gave Arwen a story. In the book she just kind of pops up at the end as a prize for Aragorn. Tolkien did write her backstory later, but originally she was kind of an afterthought. And her story still mostly revolved around Aragorn. Yes, the whole her being tied to the ring story in ROTK was stupid, but that was more about PJ being a Arwen fanboy and wanting her to be more important to the story.

And I disagree about Eowyn. Needing to be saved once doesn't change her awesomeness. Sometimes people do need to be saved in battle, and that is okay. By killing the witch-king she saved a whole heck of a lot of men. And again, I'm glad that her story was expanded a bit more. She's awesome no matter what.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-27 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This

The whole scenario with the Witch King being killed by a woman because of his careless arrogance really was awesome for me in my teen years.

I also thought Galadriel was awesome, too.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2013-08-27 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Galadriel is totally awesome too. One reason I'm glad that the Necromancer stuff is being added is because it means we'll get more Galadriel.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-28 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Soo looking forward to the movie. And Tauriel should be awesome.
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[personal profile] cadremage 2013-08-28 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. This. You've said precisely everything that I was thinking when reading this secret.
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[personal profile] feathercircle 2013-08-28 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
How many of the main characters didn't need saving at least once in that series? I mean, there's definitely room for legitimate criticism, but I don't think that particular critique is a fair one.
Edited 2013-08-28 01:49 (UTC)
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[personal profile] philstar22 2013-08-28 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. The point is that Eowyn was a character in her own right, held her own, and did her share of the saving. Being saved isn't a bad thing. The problem is when the women are only being saved by men and are just objects to be rescued. Which is not Eowyn at all. If anything, that would be more Arwen since if you don't know the appendices she's kind of just there as a prize for Aragorn.
Edited 2013-08-28 01:51 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-28 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Right? I mean, fuck. I could start counting with Frodo alone but I'm sure I'll lose track around midway through Fellowship.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-28 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, this. Gimli's ass was saved I don't even know how many times.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-28 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Came here to say this.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-28 09:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so tired of people always confusing "good female character" with "boringly strong, one dimensional female character". Always demanding female character are always better and cooler than male characters, that they shouldn't need saving, actually takes a lot of potential away from them. I want female characters to be actual characters - with weaknesses and some character development, not amazon-cardboard cutouts. Men in fiction can be ugly, evil, stupid, weak (often everything in combination) - and they have every opportunity to be sympathetic characters. As soon as a female character shows weakness in any way, people complain.
Women already need to be prettier, better, stronger and tougher than men to get the same amount of recognition in reality, why do you demand the same from fictional characters? That's actually a step backwards in terms of equality.
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[personal profile] erisiansaint 2013-08-30 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
This. I like my women to be flawed, the same way I like my men. Because that makes them PEOPLE. I can't identify with cardboard or perfection.