[ SECRET POST #2435 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2435 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Cassie Claire and E L James are well known for this because they had huge followings as fanfic authors, and because they had that huge following decided to change the serial numbers of the stories that made them BNFs. But if you were ban any story that originally was heavily inspired by another's creative world then you would find yourself dismissing a whole lot more than you thought, I bet.

Plus, 50 Shades, regardless of its many flaws, started a public dialogue about women's sexual desires (something that is pretty frankly discussed in fandom), and I'm okay with it for that alone.

Also, what's wrong with changing the names of an RPF story and selling it? There's no canon the authors are ripping off in RPF, and no characterisation. Do you want to ban stories with characters inspired by real people now?

Whenever I see people complaining about fanfiction and its bastardisation of the 'creative process', it just makes me think that the people complaining are the ones who don't understand the creative process.

Cassie Claire is getting what she deserves though.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there's a difference between a story that was "heavily inspired" by another and a story that was straight-up fanfiction.

Also, that "public dialogue" hasn't actually gone anywhere outside of insulated internet circles. Mainstream society still finds it silly at best and deviant at worst. And, on top of that, it's given people a completely incorrect and unhealthy impression of the BDSM lifestyle. It's done more harm than good, and the fact that you're okay with it makes me question your entire post.

[veronica_rich]

The only socially-good thing I've gotten out of 50 Shades is a co-worker of mine liked it, and she told me she posted something on her Facebook about it, and said she got quite a bit of flak from some followers. She's a semi-rural young mom who works and a lot of her circle are other mothers, a lot of them religious, and she said they were giving her a hard time about liking smut. I told her my likely response to any of them, in her place, would be to mind their own damn home lives and that she shouldn't feel bad about liking smut (although I did resist adding the part about what she SHOULD feel bad about is liking shitty writing and that I could direct her to much better quality porn online - (a) because I didn't want to shame her, and (b) I didn't want to out my secret dirty life in fanfiction, LOL).

[veronica_rich]

Public dialogue? No, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure people knew women liked sex before 2011 or 2012, whenever these books came out. There's nothing particularly revolutionary about a story that has a man exercising sexual (and non-sexual) control over his wife - I was sneaking those romance novels back in the early 80s when I was a teenager (long before I developed any taste for "story" and just wanted to read the dirty bits, LOL).

Has it alerted some Neanderthals to the fact women like sex? Sure. But if that's what it took to do it, they're probably not guys most sane women want to fuck anyway. Or be in a relationship with. Ewww.