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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-05 06:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #2438 ]


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[personal profile] fenm 2013-09-05 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Guess what, REAL DEATH IS LIKE THAT.

My mother died suddenly, I'm aware of how fucking, pointless, "unheroic" and quick death can be, thanks.

But do you have that attitude about people who die from accidents in real life, too?

No, because I understand the difference between real life and fiction.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-05 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well if you want all your fiction to be completely unrealistic 100% of the time, go watch some fucking Care Bears and quit whining because some writers prefer mixing in some REAL HUMANITY in their work.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-06 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
No, see, the thing about fiction is it has to make sense, in a way that real life doesn't. So, yes, you can have senseless deaths, but they have to serve a narrative purpose-the rest of the characters have to react to them, or grow from them, or something.
In real life, someone like Wash could die in a terrible senseless accident, and there'd be no reason for it, and we'd all be shocked and horrified. In fiction, Wash's death happens, and it feels like a cheap bid to make us feel shocked and horrified.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-06 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
SA Also, omg, I hate the "real life" card. You may have noticed. I just had this argument about a Mass Effect game, wherein one has to make a difficult choice to save one teammate or another. I said that was frustrating drama for drama's sake, and I got back "well, if you were serving in Afghanistan, you'd have to make tough choices like that." I'm sure I would, but it's just a video game I'm playing for fun, why does it have to be so realistic?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Because that's one of the game series' central themes. It's about making difficult choices, and about the losses sustained in pursuit of a goal. I mean, it's also about shooting space zombies, and it doesn't always pull off the difficult choices thing well, but they're central to the overall story, not superfluous dramatic fluff.

It honestly sounds like Mass Effect was a bad choice of game for you (or a bad rec on your friend's part) - IDK if you're generally a Bioware fan, but if not, I'd suggest staying away from most of their recent titles.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-06 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
How about you quit stanning Whedon? He is not infallible and he isn't always a good writer.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-06 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You not liking realistic depictions of death in your fiction doesn't make Whedon a bad writer for preferring it. Nor does disagreeing with his reasons for killing off a character.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-06 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
lol really, did you just try to pull the "dead mom card" in an argument hoping everyone would feel bad for you and stop pointing out why you're an idiot? nice try