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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-08 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2441 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2441 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, yeah. This "hot woman needs to prove she's not shallow by marrying a fuckface" trope is annoying. But somehow they have to or else they're bitches.
The Disney fandom still gives Esmeralda shit for getting it on with Phoebus instead of QUASIMODO and yet none of those people would ever go for the nice and disfigured person if they could have the nice and hot one.

*gets off soapbox*

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I was surprised when I found that out about Esmerelda! I liked her with Phoebus, and still do despite the book because the movie is its own thing. IA, most people would go for Disney!Phoebus instead.

However, I think there should be more stories with hot guy/ugly woman, maybe if it had been flipped like that for B/F I would've been more interested or impressed. I don't hate them, it's just that seeing it held up as the gold standard against 'all those other shitty HP pairings,' when B/F really isn't that new or groundbreaking ("Don't look at me, Bill, I'm 'ideous"), bothers me. Also because that praise comes off to me as rooted in FLAWLESS LADY IS FLAWLESS, YOUR FAVORITE(S) COULD NEVER, and I'm getting tired of seeing that. And now it's time for me to get off my soapbox!

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Now I'm seeing Quasimodo as the ultimate Nice Guy!
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[personal profile] blunderbuss 2013-09-09 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I don't blame Esmeralda - Quasimodo is a kind person, but still very emotionally immature - but her getting it on with Phoebus totally ruins the underlying theme of acceptance.

"It doesn't matter what you look like, what's inside is what matters! ... Except lolnope, she's going with the hot guy, too bad!"

Not to mention their romance was pretty much out of nowhere. I'd much rather that she gets with neither of them.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Except what Quasimodo really always wanted was to accepted by the people he could see from the tower, not Esmeralda in particular. She accepted him from day one.

The movie ends with him getting his wish, being able to be out and about with everyone else without fearing rejection.

Why would Quasimodo not "getting the girl" (who throughout the movie is only ever his friend and never shows any romantic feelings in return) ruin the movie?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-09 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I generally hate that people make this movie all about the ~romance~. Quasimodo has a crush on Esmeralda because she's a) the first person to be kind to him and b) the only pretty girl he's seen up close for a longer time in his whole life. It fades pretty quickly, imo.

But in general, what that movie - great as it may be - made out of the book is sad.

[personal profile] seventh_seal 2013-09-09 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
JKR sure likes the hot girl/not hot guy trope. Cuckoo's Calling.