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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-10 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2443 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2443 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sailor Moon]


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[Taken]


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[Hetalia]


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[John and Edward Grimes/Jedward]


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[Zoolander]


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[X-Files]


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[Amanda Palmer and Paula Deen]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Corporal Rivaille from Shingeki no Kyojin/Attack on Titan]


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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-10 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about Amanda Palmer, but Paula Deen and at least her brother treated their black employees like shit. The black employees were forced to come in their restaurants through a separate entrance, and a lot of them were forced to stay in the back of the house. Her brother verbally assaulted a lot of his employees. And Paula Deen promised this so-called close friend of hers equal footing in the restaurant business. Instead, she took advantage of her "black friend" not being able to read to the point where she never was Deen's equal in the restaurant business at all. That's why people are upset over Paula Deen, not only because she said the N word back in the 80s. It's even more frustrating to see news outlets only make it about the N word when it's much more than that. And these news outlets would know about the abuses she was accused of in her restaurants if they read the court documents for Lisa Jackson's (the woman who sued Deen on behalf of her former employees) lawsuit.

I can imagine Amanda Palmer, in comparison, is not as heinous.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-09-10 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. It goes beyond the N Word (and that's a pretty big thing to go beyond), but since that's all their focusing on, it gives people the opportunity to go "lol that's it?"

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny to see so many people decrying a white people using that word when a prominent user here did it repeatedly (even after a WOC told her to stop several times, to the point that the WOC was triggered) and no one said a word.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, someone on FS was inconsiderate for the lulz, there's a shocker. When was this?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
noodle just come to her defense openly sheesh

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You're talking about Chard arguing to use it in quotations/discussion of quotations right? Not taking sides on that, but people could be uncomfortable using the word themselves, think it's horrifying to use it to degrade and harass black people, and still agree with her point. It's not a contradiction.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Except she wasn't using it in the context of quotes. She was using it to tell POC they shouldn't be bothered by 'just words' and that by being upset with white people using them, they were to blame for their own upset because they 'gave the word power~'

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Links or gtfo, because I've been here for four years and don't remember that.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-12 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
dude go look for your own links - it was in the post that used the word in a django unchained secret I think. I'm not going digging for shit that triggered me.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
well I don't remember that part, maybe that happened later. I remember the argument about whether writing out the word in discussions of racism was hurting anyone, and I don't see how that's in any way relevant to Paula Deen verbally abusing her employees.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2013-09-10 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's what I read as well. And then I made the mistake of reading the comments beneath the article. On Yahoo!news. You'd think I'd have learned better by now...

Anyway, yeah, it's a much deeper issue than just her using the slur in the past.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-11 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Let me predict the comments?
"Back in the day everyone treated black people like that. It was normal back then so shut up!"
"White people suffer more from racism than black people do!"
"It's their own fault if black people get mistreated"
"I'm from 4chan and I just want to troll black people, so have some dumb meme about 'niggers'"
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[personal profile] cakemage 2013-09-11 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, pretty much, along with a few dozen comments saying that if she can't read then she really doesn't deserve to be treated better and should be glad for whatever scraps Deen threw her.