[ SECRET POST #2446 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2446 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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04. [WARNING for gore, blood, etc]

[How To Train Your Dragon]


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[Fall Out Boy's "The Phoenix"]


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09. [WARNING for underage]

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Comments

[hwc]

Speaking as someone who's not adopted, doesn't know anyone who's adopted, and has only seen half of the first season of OUaT, shouldn't Henry's feelings determine who his real mother is?

Unless that changed later on, Henry wanted Emma to be his mom, not just biologically, but also the person he wanted to stay with. If he didn't trust, like or want to be with Regina, and Emma started to regret giving him up and came around to wanting to be his mom, shouldn't that determine who is "real" mother is and who's not, adoption aside?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that isn't the point though. Henry saying he loves Emma despite her giving him up is like saying that Song of the South isn't racist because Uncle Remus liked being a slave. It is one of those things that makes the problematic premise even worse.

[(Anonymous)]

not even remotely

[(Anonymous)]

lol You do realize that there are adopted children who want to be with their birth parents, right? How about all those foreign kids who are adopted by Americans, only to be abused and given up? There was a thing in the news recently about how American parents were just giving/selling their unwanted adopted children to anyone who answered their add. Most of these children were scooped up by pedophiles and sexually abused.

But this fandom seems to have this strange notion that being an adopted parent means you're a saint that should never be questioned as a parent.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously? Where are your statistics? You come in with completely unsubstantiated claims meant to blacken the names of a whole (diverse) group of people who choose to adopt and cite one news story. Get a life, man.

[logicbutton]

The story they're talking about has a lot more nuance than the comment implies. You can read it here; it's amazing: http://www.reuters.com/investigates/adoption/#article/part1

(Also, it's not necessarily "most" of the children; the story focused on one awful couple who took in a whole bunch of kids and abused them. Not that I think anyone should be giving up their children without at least going through the proper legal channels.)

[hwc]

I'm afraid I don't understand the analogy as I've never heard of the Song of the South and Unlce Remus only makes me think of Harry Potter.

I have absolutely no race in this matter. I disliked pretty much every character on the show, which is why I stopped watching. I just think it's weird how everyone's debating which one of the two is Henry's "real" mother without anyone taking into consideration how Henry feels about the matter. If he wants her to be his mother, and she wants to be his mother, who's to say that she's not his real mother? Especially if he actively dislikes/distrusts his adoptive mother, and said adoptive mother tried to convince him and everyone else that he's crazy?


I get why the message (adoptive parents aren't real parents! Biology trumps everything!) is fucked up on a meta level, but I don't understand why Henry's feelings aren't taken into consideration in the real-mother-discussion.

[(Anonymous)]

Song of the South is set post-Civil War, making Remus a sharecropper, not a slave. Nice try though.

[(Anonymous)]

He was a slave pre-liberation and the movie gives an impression that he was happy with being a werewolf slave.

[(Anonymous)]

But Henry started out by looking for Emma because she's his "real mom", which is portrayed (in show) as super important.

[(Anonymous)]

a 10 year old child with no concept of anything beyond being abused and losing himself in fairy tales went to find a woman he had pinned his hopes on as being his 'savior' and his 'real mom'. the show tries to present the reality as more complicated than that.

[(Anonymous)]

No. Not really. He can want to have a relationship with his bio-mom and express that desire, and if this was the real world, then Regina could check Emma out and make sure she wasn't going to do harm and allow that contact. That would likely be one of the best possible outcomes in that case. Of course, the show is about fairy tales so there are all kinds of ridiculous complications. The basic problem is that they didn't put the kind of thought into their adoption storyline that they needed to make it anything other than offensive (on the face of it). It very tangentially reminds me of shows that have a trans* character but constantly refer to their biosex and make them the butt of the joke (e.g., a mtf character who likes sports and drinking beer and so it's just like hanging out with one of the guys, amirite?) The main difference is that the latter is usually played for laughs while OUaT is trotting out their problematic storylines in service of dramah.