[ SECRET POST #2446 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2446 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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04. [WARNING for gore, blood, etc]

[How To Train Your Dragon]


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[Fall Out Boy's "The Phoenix"]


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09. [WARNING for underage]

[pokemon conquest]


















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Comments

[fscom]

05. [WARNING for child abuse]
http://oi40.tinypic.com/jizxhc.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

So you acknowledge that Regina is a horrible mother and doesn't deserve Henry, but you still think she deserves to keep him...?

[saiika_von_maou]

Yeah, this seems all kinds of skewed...

Not OP

[(Anonymous)]

Regina is really a red herring in the Henry/Emma thing. Its good the show has kinda recognized that a little, and has back pedaled a little on Henry's status as her son. The real meat of it is, whatever your stance on Regina, Emma is not Henry's mother in any sense beyond the pure biological. She is Henry's incubator and co-biological donor. Unless the show pulls a full retcon, Emma gave him up and at that point gave up any responsibility to him beyond that of J. Random Citizen.

Now obviously for the show to work, it cannot show Emma as doing the only thing she should have done in the opening ep which is just calling social services on her way out of dodge, but that is where the show has to start endorsing the utterly insulting position of biological donor=parent. They've done a bit of soft back pedaling on that, and they've taken the Regina as parent thing out of the equation as anything other than Regina's misguided pov (and the show in fairness has shown it is pretty much all Regina), but having made it an integral part of their show it isn't going to go away any time soon. They either just didn't think through their basic premise or got caught out in a cultural blindspot regarding adoption (I'm sure its on tvtropes somewhere about all adopted kids seeking out their bio-parents).

The only person who really has legit claim to Henry is Neal/Bae, and that is just as unknown/unwitting parent.

[helenadax]

Fairyrtales often portray evil stepmothers, it's a classic, so I don't find it as problematic as I would if it was another kind of TV show. Otoh, I think the show makes clear that Emma wouldn't fight with Regina over Henry if Regina hadn't been a manipulative cold mother to him.

[(Anonymous)]

Trouble with Emma is she didn't know about the manipulative bit back in the first episodes when she shoved her foot in the door. At that point Regina was just a generic WASP parent. Cold, austere, a bit snobby. Not the best mother material, but certainly not justifying the criminal damage and outright stalking that Emma engaged in before actually being given a reason to do so. Hindsight can be claimed, but it was a kinda sucky intro to Emma.

[(Anonymous)]

wait so you admit that you think she's a shitty and abusive mother but think she still deserves to keep him? uhhhhhh....what....

[(Anonymous)]

The show made it obvious that Emma had no intentions of taking Henry away. Heck she was going to leave until Regina tried poisoning her and ended up poisoning Henry instead.

[(Anonymous)]

Regina is abusive and has no right to keep Henry as a child.

It's a big trope in fiction that your family is whoever you want it to be. That it doesn't necessarily come down to blood, but who you love. Henry loves Emma and wants her as his mother. She loves him and wants him as his child. So despite it not being technical in legal terms it counts in fiction and that's how they're treating it.

[(Anonymous)]

But by having them be genetically related it is a slap in the face to every adoptive family in America. That message of family is who you choose would go over a lot more smoothly if Emma and Henry really were not related.

[(Anonymous)]

OUAT isn't, in any way, about chosen family. Over and over again, the plotlines are about the superiority of biological familial bonds, as opposed to adoptive family units (see Emma/Henry/Regina stuff and the Hansel and Gretel BS).

[(Anonymous)]

Just because you place a child up for adoption doesn't mean you don't love them.

[deaalmon]

Amen.

[(Anonymous)]

No. But you also aren't their parent anymore. You don't get to waltz back into their lives, claim you're their parent just because of biology, and get custody again.

[forgottenjester]

And your love does not make you their "real" parent. Love has nothing to do with this.

[forgottenjester]

I haven't watched this show so I'm not going to get into the actual debate for these particular characters but you have hit upon a huge pet peeve of mine. I hate how most of Hollywood depicts adoption. If an adopted character is introduced I immediately expect disappointment. Being proven right so often is not as satisfying as it sounds.

Also, sorry about your biological parent turning out to be a fuckhead. Shit like that is just another reason I'm happy I still haven't contacted mine. Hopefully you can find a way to cut her out of your life again and move on. :/

Secret 5 - Once Upon a Time (warning for child abuse)

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warning for child abuse

[Picture is Emma Swan and Regina Mills from the TV show "Once Upon a Time".]

I was adopted. Because I had an open adoption, I was able to find my birth mother. She decided that she regretted giving me up. She called herself my "real mother" and tried to convince me that my adoptive parents weren't real parents.

This show pisses me off so much. Yes, Regina is a horrible person who doesn't deserve Henry either and should have been charged with child abuse. She's still his mother, though. And she did raise him. Emma is not his mother. She made her choice, and she can't take that back now. The way everyone assumes she's his mother and the way she gets to keep him makes me angry.

Bonus secret: I keep watching, though, in the vain hope that Regina will stay redeemed and get her son back.

[hwc]

Speaking as someone who's not adopted, doesn't know anyone who's adopted, and has only seen half of the first season of OUaT, shouldn't Henry's feelings determine who his real mother is?

Unless that changed later on, Henry wanted Emma to be his mom, not just biologically, but also the person he wanted to stay with. If he didn't trust, like or want to be with Regina, and Emma started to regret giving him up and came around to wanting to be his mom, shouldn't that determine who is "real" mother is and who's not, adoption aside?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that isn't the point though. Henry saying he loves Emma despite her giving him up is like saying that Song of the South isn't racist because Uncle Remus liked being a slave. It is one of those things that makes the problematic premise even worse.

[(Anonymous)]

lol This fandom. A teenager girl who suffered through foster care, who then found herself in JAIL while PREGNANT with NO FAMILY had the perfect opportunity to choose. Emma wouldn't even been able to keep Henry, considering that she was in jail for almost a year.

Adoptions can be great. Adoptions can also be awful, and just because someone is an adopted parent, doesn't mean they're fit to be a parent.

[rbhudson]

People who weren't adopted don't understand shit, I know from experience

[kelincihutan]

I have no idea about anything to do with this show. I just wanted to say, I'm sorry you went through that with your birth mom, OP. It sounds awful and I hope things have gotten better since then.

[ladysugarquill]

Regina's "adoption" had a lot of coercion in it too, so I don't think it's legitimate. (Examples ascape me now, it's been a while since I've seen the show).

[(Anonymous)]

This is a fairy tale and fairy tales are all about blood lines and such. How many focus on "the true king" or some such, being raised by peasants or chickens in the woods but of course blood will tell and the noble nature shines through. Blood = destiny in a fairy tale world.

[arcadiaego]

Yeah, I love OUAT but the fact that it has handled those issues really badly is a widespread and legit criticsm.