[ SECRET POST #2446 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2446 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]




















04. [WARNING for gore, blood, etc]

[How To Train Your Dragon]


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05. [WARNING for child abuse]



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06. [WARNING for rape]



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08. [WARNING for torture]

[Fall Out Boy's "The Phoenix"]


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09. [WARNING for underage]

[pokemon conquest]


















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #349.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So you acknowledge that Regina is a horrible mother and doesn't deserve Henry, but you still think she deserves to keep him...?

[saiika_von_maou]

Yeah, this seems all kinds of skewed...

Not OP

[(Anonymous)]

Regina is really a red herring in the Henry/Emma thing. Its good the show has kinda recognized that a little, and has back pedaled a little on Henry's status as her son. The real meat of it is, whatever your stance on Regina, Emma is not Henry's mother in any sense beyond the pure biological. She is Henry's incubator and co-biological donor. Unless the show pulls a full retcon, Emma gave him up and at that point gave up any responsibility to him beyond that of J. Random Citizen.

Now obviously for the show to work, it cannot show Emma as doing the only thing she should have done in the opening ep which is just calling social services on her way out of dodge, but that is where the show has to start endorsing the utterly insulting position of biological donor=parent. They've done a bit of soft back pedaling on that, and they've taken the Regina as parent thing out of the equation as anything other than Regina's misguided pov (and the show in fairness has shown it is pretty much all Regina), but having made it an integral part of their show it isn't going to go away any time soon. They either just didn't think through their basic premise or got caught out in a cultural blindspot regarding adoption (I'm sure its on tvtropes somewhere about all adopted kids seeking out their bio-parents).

The only person who really has legit claim to Henry is Neal/Bae, and that is just as unknown/unwitting parent.

Re: Not OP

[helenadax]

But was Henry's adoption legal? Regina had to create a "muggle" identity. And Rumpel was part of it. I have my doubts.

Re: Not OP

[deaalmon]

Not to mention isn't there hazy legality when the father doesn't sign off on putting a kid up for adoption in the first place?

Re: Not OP

[(Anonymous)]

If the father's not mentioned on the birth certificate, they don't get a say.

Re: Not OP

[(Anonymous)]

I refer you to the part where I said that Reggie was a red herring and doesn't matter.

The show has outright told us that Emma gave Henry up. Everything after that is irrelevant to Emma and Henry's relationship. How Reggie did the voodoo or baby stealing is a different issue (and boy does Henry and Reggie's relationship have issues). However Henry and Emma's relationship is simple. We have been told (short of a massive retcon) that Emma did completely give Henry up. It is a major point in the first episode which Emma does not dispute, in-universe.

That is where the show gets into trouble with the adoptive family community. The show's premise is based on Emma hanging around to be a true parent which is an offensive meme in its own right. They should have found a better way to handle Emma's intro to Storybrooke.

As far as Reggie is concerned, her having a murky adoption-stance clarified in S2 makes it a bit better on count two of the indictment (adoptive parents not being real) and back pedals a bit from the stance in S1 which shows they did listen a bit. It still doesn't change that Neal/Bae is the closest thing that Henry has to a true parent and the Emma/Henry relationship is massively problematic. And also that technically (and I want to choke on these words myself) that with Neal/Bae being out of the picture that Mister Gold/Begbie is the closest thing he has to family rather than the Charmings.

[The Charmings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRLYJHUeoFE ]

I blame the Secret Poster (and everyone else that brings these points up every goddamn time) for conflating two separate issues. Although if they've only seen S1 then that is fine, because the conflation was pretty valid in S1 due to stupid writing of the show. S2 is better. maybe S3 will find a way to fix this without invoking a retcon, although I personally feel that if they do then it'll be by retcon.