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⌈ Secret Post #2447 ⌋

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Comments

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

Female to "binary doesn't work for me, where do I fit on the gender scale?!"

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

A follow up question, then, and please don't mistake my ignorance for malice, I understand the internal classification of FtX, it is about how you identify in your own mind, but I always believed that MtF and FtM represent a physical change, not a mental one.

I mean, as I understand it there is no mental change to make, mentally you don't change from male to female, do you? You are mentally male/female, and you transition to physically match up with that, right?

Assuming I'm right about the way this all works, my question is this: What physical changes take place to opt out of a binary gender identity?

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it'd be more mental, right? Since you can't actually change your sex. You're either male or female, unless you have a genetic defect/disorder. So it'd be more of a mental change with surgery.

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh christ here we go...

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

is it possible you phrased that really badly?

Are you saying FtX could only be a mental change because you're physically either M or F? If so, that's sort of what I was wondering, but hopefully it came out as more of a question when I asked rather than as blanket statement of "This is the way it is" (like I said, badly phrased).

Or are you saying that all changes in gender are mental because no matter what surgery you get you are still only male or female. If so, then you are either misinformed or trolling / deliberately being unkind. if the latter, please would you bugger off.

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, but you can change your physical sex, you just can't change your genetic one. It's not like the average person does blood tests on other people when determining what sex they are.

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

This.

What's more, genetical sex doesn't always correspond to phenotypical sex. Take for instance people with Androgen insensitivity syndrome, who are genetically male, but phenotypically female and usually don't know about their condition until they hit adulthood and become concerned over lack of menstruation. Of girls with Turner syndrome who are genetically sexless and phenotypically female. There are also people with Congenital adrenal hyperplasia, who are genetically female or male, but phenotypically ambiguous.

Human sex is a pretty complicated thing and very hard to classify.

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

da

maybe rephrase because I've no idea what you're trying to get across :X

Re: WTF, self?

[inkdust]

I would think FtX could be more of a social change - pronoun use, for example. There's more that can factor into transitioning than physical changes, such as switching single sex bathrooms or shopping exclusively in the opposite gendered section of a clothing store. Some of that may not apply to a non-binary transition, but there are bound to be some social components.

There's also just the mental side of things. A person may realize they've always been a certain way, but that realization marks a significant moment.

Re: WTF, self?

[(Anonymous)]

Some genderqueer people have a partial surgery, or just take testosterone injections, but don't follow it up with surgery. Female-born genderqueers sometimes get rid of their ovaries and wombs without the injections, but that carries certain health risks, so it's not always easy or legal to do this. Then there are some genderqueer people who were born intersex. I've also heard of cases where genderqueer people transitioned fully, but didn't identify as either male or female.

But really, surgery is only a part of it. After all, you're still the same person inside before and after surgery.