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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-14 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2447 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2447 ⌋

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Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Why?

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Why not? Isn't it kind of silly to believe in something that was created over two thousand years ago in the desert? All the scientific understand we have now points to no divine intervention. It actually wouldn't make sense, considering the universe isn't even immortal. Plus, why would a higher being create such a mind boggling amount of open space, fill it with billions of stars and planets and wandering space bits, and only put life on one planet? And if this divine being did put life on other planets, why didn't even say that when he/she/it handed down its divineness to those people who wrote the bible(s)?

It makes much more sense to say that it was just a creation of humans, as we have a vast imagination and desire to feel like we have a purpose.

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds like your problem (like that of most Western atheists) is with creationism and Abrahamic religions, not all belief in a nebulous high power. There's plenty of people who don't believe scientific fact and the possibility of divinity are mutually exclusive (although those aren't usually the people involved in the screaming fights between extreme atheists and hardcore Abrahamic theists, so we hear less from them).

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
No, not really. I mean in general-If a higher being created the universe, why create something that is going to eventually tear itself apart? It's sort of magical thinking to say that a being created a vast empty spaces, then filled it with all sorts of things, and then leave it be. The universe is also speeding up, which means a force is pushing it forward. (Some think it is the dark matter that makes up the majority of the universe, but no one knows for sure) It seems really counter-productive to make something that is going to destroy itself.

And where did this magical higher being come from? Why have life exist at all, when the universe is so volatile towards life. (Our only saving grace is the outer planets that take the asteroids and whatnot into their own gravitational pull)

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Why not create something that's going to tear itself apart? What's inherently wrong with making amazing things that aren't intended to remain in the same state for all eternity? That's a way of thinking specific to only certain religions, that the only valuable things are things that never change (an unchanging deity, an unchanging state after death, etc).

And I dunno, where did anything come from? Where did the things that came together to form a components of what would eventually become the universe come from? Nobody knows; some say a creator that existed before said components, some say those components were always here and always will be, some say a higher being was itself born out of those components that were always here and always will be. People have a lot of ideas and no definitive answers.

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I believe there was an explanation for that, that matter can actually come from nothing-but I forgot the guys name. He was on the Colbert Report once

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Or they just don't believe in things that don't have evidence of actually existing?

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-15 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

They specified Abrahamic ideals, that the world was created a few thousand years ago. Hence it seemed to me their gripe was with one particular set of religions that originated that idea, since most of them don't give such a detailed timeline to the world.

Re: It's that time again (non-fandom confessions)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-16 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think they were referring to people making a bunch of this up a few thousand years ago. Or whatever length of time is appropriate to [insert religion here].