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Secretly, I think belief in a higher power is the most moronic thing ever.

Tell that to Cthulhu!

Well, as long as you're not being a douche about it, I agree with you. :)

I don't think it's moronic exactly, but I do always feel a twinge of pity for people who can't get through their day without imagining a higher power.

Sometimes I envy people who believe in a higher power. They've got someone to blame. Also I don't understand how their belief works. /apparently born an atheist

No one is born believing in God.

Yup. I'm not always secret about it, though.

Oh.

Well, it is, but it has a purpose. Humans tend to not be able to handle their own mortality, so believing in a higher power makes them feel better about their own death. I've gotten really tired of people forcing their religion on people, though.

No, abortion shouldn't illegal because Jesus. No, birth control shouldn't be illegal because of Jesus. NO homosexual marriage should not be illegal because of Jesus. It smacks of "I know this isn't real, but if it effects the real world, even though all the evidence science has points to no creator god what so ever, then it must be real!"

D-: Do American fundies really think like that? REALLY? D-:

this is not an american issue, or something exclusive to the united states.

Sometimes when people are talking about their relationship with God and whatnot I get so vicariously embarrassed for them I get goosebumps. Everyone is just so childish and simplistic about it and I just can't.

One incident that really stands out was when I overheard a woman fervently insisting she believes God snatches the souls out of dogs before they get hit by a car so they don't ever suffer. I just wanted to ask her what happened with the survivors? Or people who actually suffer, but are clearly present and conscious, on and on before dying?

Sometimes I'm just baffled at how someone can believe in a higher power and not really have it affect their life past lip service.

Doesn't the bible say animals have no souls? lol

I believe it says animals have a different kind of soul. Nothing in the book about "immortal souls" tho. Which is awkward for all those Bible-bangers bleating about same.

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I was with my boyfriend one day at On the Border and these women behind us had this conversation I couldn't help over hearing about a Jewish man and how they wouldn't EVER date/marry a man of a different religion (other than Christianity of course) because, how do they know he wouldn't beat them cause religion? Cause, you know, NO ONE EVER who is a Christian would beat their spouse, am I right?

My boyfriend had to silently start waving his hands in a "calm down" motion cause I was getting pissed off and trying my damnedest not to turn around and lay into them.

Why?

Why not? Isn't it kind of silly to believe in something that was created over two thousand years ago in the desert? All the scientific understand we have now points to no divine intervention. It actually wouldn't make sense, considering the universe isn't even immortal. Plus, why would a higher being create such a mind boggling amount of open space, fill it with billions of stars and planets and wandering space bits, and only put life on one planet? And if this divine being did put life on other planets, why didn't even say that when he/she/it handed down its divineness to those people who wrote the bible(s)?

It makes much more sense to say that it was just a creation of humans, as we have a vast imagination and desire to feel like we have a purpose.

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Judging from the amount of loud internet atheists spawning everywhere these days, you'd probably be pretty safe saying this out of anon here, at least. To your theist family and friends, however, it would probably be more dangerous (relationships have ended over pettier things).

Yeah, I always cringe when parents/family react so violently to their children not believing in their religion. "Get out of my house, or else your nonbelief might anger the skydaddy and I won't get to have fun in the clouds for all eternity!"

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I do, usually. But I also see how that belief helps some people around me. On the other hand, religious nuts make me want to be less secretive about it. Lets just say Jehovah witness visits to my door are fun.

Exactly. While they try to convert me to Jehovism(?) I do my best to convert them to empiricism. It has a nice old testament-y charm, an eye for an eye and all that.

Agreed.

Yesterday a super religious (and super annoying in general outside of her religiousness) longtime client asked me if I thought it was possible to believe in a god and also believe in ghosts/spirits. I wanted so badly to say "if you believe in one thing that has no evidence it actually exists, how is there any issue with also believing in another type?" but just stuck with "yes" because I didn't want to get fired.

This is the same woman who once made some comment about Zeus and "godS", plural, and made sure I knew afterward that she was just joking and didn't actually believe in those things because that would be "totally ridiculous", because believing in ONE god somehow isn't totally ridiculous.

Yep. Ghosts, god, zombies or santa: fun to tell stories about, but fantasy is fantasy.

i would disagree. i think a belief in a specific higher power is a little naive, but belief in general - or rather, the idea or theism in general - isn't so moronic at all, in my opinion. there is a lot to consider when discussing an entity whose primary definition is "that which is elevated, in comparison to us." that covers quite a lot of ground, well beyond "bearded old man in the sky."

i think if you chewed on this a little more you would no longer find it moronic, even if you still disagreed. the concept of a higher being is very fascinating and can teach you a lot about theory and the universe around us. without such consideration - consideration of things which we do not know, rather, not just higher powers - the concept of existence can seem rather empty.

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