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It would depend on the character if it threw me or not. But it's not guaranteed to because I know for a fact that one can be really good with electronics and programming and have no aptitude for maths at all. That not only describes me but most of the programmers I work with.

Really? Huh, interesting. It's always been by impression that you can't divorce math from any kind of engineering (software, hardware, electrical, what-have-you), even if it's not wearing the same costume.

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That was true before and still is for some things but isn't for programming at anymore. And for lots of stuff with electronics it isn't true, either. It depends on what you're doing with them. If you're engineering new equipment that is radically different than what already exists, then you need strong maths skills. If you're doing what most people do and just reconfiguring or tweaking existing tech (physically or in draft), you don't need need any maths at all. You input your electrical measurements to specialised software and it tells you if your components can handle the load and what you need to do if they can't.

For programming, it's about the same except we're less likely to author original code than someone is to invent a piece of completely new equipment. It's kind of like writing a story; you have a pool of words to choose from, made up from a finite amount of characters, and you string those words together to make sentences and the sentences to for paragraphs and paragraphs to form the story. The story we tell is read by a machine instead of a person and the language we use is different, but we're all using the same basics, just in different ways.

Thanks for explaining. I see how that wouldn't require the kind of math they call math even at a college level.

Oh god, the inability to divorce mechanical inclination/spatial skill from "good at math too!" had a big hand in my number issues not being recognized when I was younger. D: It doesn't help that I got my tool/machine/problem-solving abilities from my dad, who is really good at math. (But terrible at reading, oddly enough.)

But yeah, there are a lot of ways to come at this stuff, and you can't always tell who is approaching things in which way from the outside. Some people who are handy with this kind of thing are more math-inclined, but it seems like there are just as many who take more of a visualization approach. And neither way is worse or better, they're just different.

While I can see that this is true for programming, I'd say it would be near impossible to get through an engineering degree with severe math problems. In my university Electrical and Computer engineering have the same first 2 years, and they had to do more advanced math than I did.

You need maths for a degree in either field but not to work in the field. Dunno about electrical engineers so much but fewer programmers bother getting a degree these days. If you can do it, you can get a job. Why go into debt for a piece of paper that says you can do it? It might mean having some opportunities others don't but there are also opportunities only available to people who aren't in debt because they're more likely to get the security clearance to work on restricted projects. It's a trade off of sorts but it usually works out better for those that don't get a degree.

I am thinking of going the self-taught route for programming myself actually! It does make sense to me. But engineering as a regulated profession needs a degree and certification, even if it's not for everyone.

I'd never heard of that security clearance thing! I'm Canadian and that sounds so dystopic...

"Strong" maths isn't required even when you are writing relatively original code (i.e. trying to model real world logic into the computer), decent maths is a boon in understanding why things are the way they are.

I took a lot of maths at uni, and in hindsight I wanna jump off a building and get a do-over where I learn programming in an apprenticeship, because if you really only want to develop and test (I do, I do, I do) you don't need any maths whatsoever in your day-to-day activities.

There are underlying skills that are shared between the disciplines though.

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