[ SECRET POST #2450 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2450 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh yeah. I'm straight and get called "closed-minded" because I'm the only one in my circle that isn't crazy about slash.

Gay romance doesn't do it for me. The ships are cute sometimes but I've never come across anything that genuinely grabbed my interest or turned me on. It's too hard to relate to. Why should I need to relate to it to begin with?

Sorry gay people, I totally think you deserve equal rights but it doesn't mean I actually give a shit about your love life.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, well, I mostly ship slash and got called "heterophobic" and that apparently, I suffer from internalised misogyny. So I guess we all have our problems with the crazy people in fandoms.

[(Anonymous)]

It sucks that neither shipper with their desired preference can win, huh? I just need the ship to be a blip on my OTP radar and hey, let fly those sails.

In my fandom though, I think what sucks for me is that my preferred slash ship is considered unpopular/taboo because it goes against the fandom pet OTP baby.

Fandom ultimately ruined that pairing for me, and I'm of the mentality to 'ship and let ship' for all of them but that one.

[(Anonymous)]

Bingo. Same thing happened to me - except I got closed minded because I wouldn't WRITE slash, although I read the same fandom friend's slash fic!

I think there are plenty of cute slash and femslash couples - I may read SOME fic of them, but I'm largely not interested in the smut portion. Then again, I skip smut in het fics too lately...

[(Anonymous)]

I got accused of being homophobic for the same reason. Not writing slash does not equal homophobia.

I don't make political statements via my preferences in fic. I support gay rights in RL and I'll write whatever the hell I want.

[(Anonymous)]

It sucks because I'm just not homophobic. It hurt because it came from a so-called 'friend.'

If there's a slash ship that changes my mind, I'll happily write about it if the mood strikes me. It hasn't happened yet though. I don't write a ton anyway, especially shippy stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

It hurt because it came from a so-called 'friend.'

AYRT. Ouch, that really sucks. I'm sorry, anon.

A friend turned me off a fandom because she was that determined to get me to write slash for her favourite couple. Since I read slash, I must want to write it, right? Actually, no.

[(Anonymous)]

It's okay, there's a reason why we're no longer friends. ;) Okay, a few, but that was a big sticking point for me.

I don't get why people push that kind of thing. Like it's one thing if they suggest it and you decline it and they drop the idea, but if they're persistent it makes me want to do it even LESS.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I despair at that attitude. Just because you read something doesn't mean you can write it.

[pelespen]

Yeah, I had something similar happen. Given how strongly and deeply I feel about equal rights and marriage rights for LGBT in RL, it made me physically ill when that happened. People lose a lot of perspective in fandom, and the internet makes it incredibly easy to throw shitty judgments at people, just because they don't agree with a particular ship. It's pretty sick, and a large part of why I left fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Though, I'm the other way 'round - can't honestly ship most het pairs, but you pretty much said it - can't relate to it, don't give a damn.

[(Anonymous)]

Because gay romance is so different from het romance?
I'm not talking about the gender roles or fanfic tropes. I think it's weird you can't relate to two people being in love just because their genitals are the same. You don't need to like slash, but wow, saying you can't relate to gay couples just because there's no vagina involved?

I understand now why your friends call you close-minded.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I don't read femmeslash because I see little appeal in the total lack of dicks. It's not that I totally can't relate to the characters, but nothing in any lesbian sex scene does anything for me.

[(Anonymous)]

What about fic that doesn't involve explicit sex? Do you only read smut? (Just out of curiosity :))

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

If I ran across a non-explicit femmeslash story I liked the sound of (both for pairing and summary), that's fine with me.

That does not however mean I am automatically fine with rule 63'ing my favourite slash pairings. I came to like them as males, I prefer to keep one or both as males. I'll read the occasional femmeslash for canonically female characters (prime example: I am moderately fond of Madoka/Homura).

[littlestbirds]

Fanfic is written for a specific audience, and it's usually badly written too. We're prepared to overlook that because we're invested in the characters and the dynamic. Most of it is not sophisticated literature about our universal humanity, it's written specifically for people who want to see the characters bone. I knew I was into slash before I even knew what it was, and it wasn't because I was appreciating pure love stories from a lofty position where genitals didn't matter. Can we please stop judging people based on what they don't read for pleasure?

[(Anonymous)]

What's close minded is your determination to make someone justify their personal preferences.

Having no interest in m/m or f/f =/= homophobia, and it doesn't mean it isn't relatable in terms of relationships, it just means no interest.

[(Anonymous)]

You're assuming everyone ships for the same reason. For lots of people, shipping isn't just liking two characters and/or wanting to see them together. For some, it's needing to able to relate to it. It can be hard to relate to that if you're just not into that kind of dynamic.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh.... I think you're the closed-minded one for equating genitals with gender.

Gender expression matters. I prefer my ships to have one girl and one guy. Even better if the girl resembles me or if the guy is my type.

M/M ships are difficult because I can't relate to a male character and F/F ships don't work because crushing on a girl is an alien concept to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I get what you're saying, anon. It's groovy to have whatever preferences you want (especially if you're into shipping more for the porn than anything), but the specific reasoning of not being able to relate to gay romance kind of had me raising an eyebrow.