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⌈ Secret Post #2450 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"I'm also uncomfortable if someone only ships pretty white people with each other. It's shady as fuck."

Um...wow. Firstly, I'm not sure if this applies to me or not because most of the men I think of as pretty aren't generally viewed that way. And it doesn't really matter because who I find attractive and who I ship is an extension of what I like and want to see. In my three fandoms, there are exactly zero men POCs. I've shipped het in the past but the only women characters in my current fandoms are either characters I don't like (just as there are some men characters I don't like) or they are minor characters with little or no interaction with the main characters. This leaves me with white men to ship. That I find some of them pretty is a happy bonus, IMHO.

tl;dr - Lack of representation is a factor you seem to have forgotten.

[dazzledfirestar]

Lack of representation is absolutely a factor.

But when a viable interracial ship is present in a lot of cases it's bowled over by two pretty white dudes. *shrugs*

[vethica]

Eyup. See: the ridiculous lack of Turk/JD in Scrubs fandom, which I'm still bitter about.

[(Anonymous)]

B-but Turk/Carla are OTP :(

(Also JD was always such an ass)

[dazzledfirestar]

Mhmm. Tony/Rhodey springs to mind in the Iron Man fandom too. And Fury/Coulson. >.> Believe me, I feel your pain.

[(Anonymous)]

da, the problem is that this is STILL a representation issue. There's such a large scope and variety of white characters to choose from that almost anyone will have an opportunity to ship their "type". You don't often get that for non-white characters in Hollywood. There's less variety, they're usually bogged down to stereotypes or minor roles in the background.

That said, I do agree it's not always the case, though. I would wager a LOT of the time it does come down to race, even if it's subconscious, or a societal influence on what we perceive as attractive. It's very complicated.

[dazzledfirestar]

Yes, it is very complicated and the big picture obviously doesn't cover ever instance ever. But when you look at the patterns in a lot of fandoms (I'll use my own as an example because that's what I know best), the interactions that would send shippers over the moon if they occurred between two white men are often overlooked. Tony Stark and James Rhodes come to mind pretty quickly. Nick Fury and Phil Coulson too.

Obviously everyone can and should ship whatever they like, but looking at the reasons why things are the way they are isn't a bad idea by any stretch of the imagination.