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⌈ Secret Post #2452 ⌋

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[Giles Coren and Sue Perkins, The Supersizers Eat… The Eighties]

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[Jeff Davis/Teen Wolf]

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[Django Unchained]

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[Valiant Hearts: The Great War]

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[Child of Light]

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[Jurassic Park]

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[Hate Plus]

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[The Three Investigators]

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[Charlie Hunnam]

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The song itself is iffy but can arguably be up to interpretation. To be honest, a lot of pop songs are like that and by itself, I don't find this one especially offensive. But the video is gross. Upon viewing it, you are left without a doubt as to the direction the artist(s) wants everyone to interpret the song.

I don't think that's really true. AFAIK the idea for the video didn't come from Robin Thicke, it came from the director of the video (who is a woman). She also thought that the video is playful and the women are generally more powerful than the men:

I wanted to deal with the misogynist, funny lyrics in a way where the girls were going to overpower the men. Look at Emily Ratajkowski’s performance; it’s very, very funny and subtly ridiculing. That’s what is fresh to me. It also forces the men to feel playful and not at all like predators. I directed the girls to look into the camera, this is very intentional and they do it most of the time; they are in the power position. I don’t think the video is sexist. The lyrics are ridiculous, the guys are silly as fuck. That said, I respect women who are watching out for negative images in pop culture and who find the nudity offensive, but I find [the video] meta and playful.

(from this interview: http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/80424/qa-veteran-music-video-director-diane-martel-on-her-controversial-videos-for-robin-thicke-and-miley-cyrus)

I think it's at the very least more complicated than just saying "the video proves they're sleazy", you know?

Well, those might have been her intentions, but the finished product didn't exactly live up to her claims. It didn't work for me personally, and it didn't work for a lot of other viewers -- the explicit version, in particular, is almost embarrassingly lacking in taste.

With these lyrics, there could have been ways to make an empowering video that embraced this supposed spirit of fun silliness without coming off extremely unbalanced in portraying the men and women involved, but that didn't happen here. Nudity has been done in music videos many times before, and done tastefully. Here, the female models' bodies couldn't have been more objectified if they had been replaced with actual dancing dolls. Who would watch this and think that they are the ones being empowered, as opposed to the dapper sharp-dressed men they're fawning all over?

Also, why should we let Thicke off the hook just because the idea came from another person? Are we to believe he had no creative input whatsoever in his own music video? (And if so, what kind of an artist is he?) In that very article you linked, it is mentioned that he gave a separate interview claiming that the idea for the video was to be "derogatory toward women". Even the director is on record WTF-ing about that nutbar comment. He also gave another interview claiming that the video couldn't possibly be sexist because, why, all the men in it are happily married. Talk about missing the point on a cosmic level.

It's interesting that she talks as if the lyrics are obviously a joke that everyone is laughing at because they're misogynistic.... didn't Thicke say he thought the lyrics were feminist and liberating?

It also forces the men to feel playful and not at all like predators.

This sentence deeply confuses me.

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